Is Cardinal Kasper Excommunicated?

[Piusbruderschaft.de] The Cardinals were sworn under oath, during the Conclave, and thereafter to keep absolute silence, both in terms of the course of the conclave and the voting.

Cardinal Kasper seems to see it differently: The Swabian newspaper addressed the prelate who talks out of school and  openly declared that he had already chosen Jorge Bergoglio  in the first round of voting.

Does the Swabian Cardinal now merit an ecclesiastical punishment?

SZ: Your Eminence, when you came out of the conclave. How did you feel about the new Pope Francis?

Kasper: Cardinal Bergoglio from the beginning was my candidate, I voted for him from the beginning of the conclave. It represents a new beginning in the church, for a humble and fraternal church that is there for people who return to their source, the Gospel. His name as Pope, Francis, is a program, it is reminiscent of the St. Francis of Assisi, who has heard the call of Christ: "Build my church again!” [Not to tear it down as Cardinal Kasper has done for practically his entire career.]

Source: Schwäbische.de

The grotesque of the situation is the fact that the newspaper he never asks. Sua sponte Schwabe never asked who he has personally voting for. The question: "What do you think of the Pope?" can be answered fully satisfactorily without this indiscretion.

When the cardinal made any such,  he then left off to reconstruct the course of events of the conclave in a striking fashion.

Unlike the Archbishop of Vienna Cardinal Kasper Schoenborn stressed for example, at a press conference immediately after the election, that he could only answer questions that relate to things after the election of the new Pope.

In addition, the response of Cardinal Kasper has another - like the Schwabe says - “flavor”.  Does that not sound as having a bit of panache? I, Cardinal Kasper, have made the right choice from the beginning. He has been "my" candidate.

The fact is that Cardinal Kasper has made a statement, which is illegal according to the promise given under oath. One should not think that this oath was unknown to people around the world. Even the Spiegel focuses on the secrecy sworn on the Bible in its own article: swearing on the Bible against secret treachery . It says: "In case of breach of the oath those guilty are threatened with excommunication."

Must  a Prince of the Church call this kind of secrecy into question: If your Eminence treat an oath on the Bible like this, how will your Eminence handle it in confession?

Link to piusbruderschaft.de...

Helium Prices Rise on the Increasing Possibility of a Schönborn Papacy

Cardinal Schönborn’s odds have gone up, as the Leftist press worldwide extols his alleged conservative credentials. His standing at Paddy Power has demonstrated great buoyancy. Meanwhile, the helium industry is gearing up for a ++Schönborn papacy, who if elected will not only create a lot of hot air among journalists, Catholic and secular alike, about how conservative he is, despite his penchant for Liturgical extremes, but will surely create a real demand for helium.

 

 At present, it’s not clear whether or not Dennis Rodman’s campaign for Cardinal Turkson is having an effect.

 

There are also suggestions in some confidential circles that instead of white smoke, they will release thousands of multicolored balloons if the Danube Cardinal is to channel some of that river water into the Tiber.

Link to  photo.

Austrian Television Worried About Rebirth of Czarist Russia

A television program “Orientierung" by Austria’s national broadcaster ORF has addressed conservative Orthodox groups in Russia, which was concerned with the continuous counter wind against the Sodomite question.

What is good for the Church, is good for the State -- The movement “Holy Russia”
is defending against the desecration of Russian Sacredness and social perversion.
[Photo: Swajataja Rus]

[Edit: the article as follows from kreuz.net.] “Orthodox Faith, absolute sovereignty and Russiandom -- these were the three pillars of Czarist Imperial Russia before the Revolution”.  It is ORF’s opinion that it will be brought about again by Putin.  A good sign for Russia!

As an indication for this, the homo-lobby is facing an upswing, take the conservative, orthodox groups like for instance, “Moscow is the Third Rome”, the movement “Holy Russia” or the orthodox “Flag Bearers”.

The ban on homo-propaganda in Russia with only a dissenting vote among the several hundred member Duma has horrified the homo-lobby and Left journalists --- also that of the Religion Department of the Leftist Austrian State Broadcaster.

Hard times are coming in Russia for gays, lesbians and other minorities.  The problem is, says a “religion expert” of the clearly even for Russia, Left Humanities Faculty (if Marxism is also taught as part of the curriculum?), that Liberalism and the secular Freemasonic State is in danger.

In the Duma it is completely understood what “Orthodoxy and the healthy popular feeling” expects.

In addition there is a law in preparation that the defamation of the feelings of the Faithful is penalized (up to two years imprisonment), included discussed is a law outlawing abortion.

“Aids and Hepatitis -- Gays Suffer this 40 Times More than normal Males.”

Dmitri Enteo, one of the “stars” (according to ORF) of the group “Moscow is the Third Rome”,  will also be quite clear:  “Our country was built upon the Orthodox Church and homosexuality destroys our home -- morally, ethically and demographically!  Propaganda for homosexuality means also an advertisement for AIDS and Hepatitis.  Gays suffer from this 40 times more frequently than normal men.  We do not want such a future for us and certainly not for our children!”

“The Goal of these … Sodomites, Gays and Lesbians is the decay of the Traditional Family”

Iwan Otrakowski, formerly a Captain in the Airborne Infantry, spent several years in the war in Chechnya, found a way to the Faith and became the founder of the movement “Holy Russia”:  “We are  a society of Orthodox Christians, who would like to serve God, the people and the Fatherland.  We want to be strong and moral.  We meet together for sport, train in operating weapons and go to church.  Thus we find our way to God.  Evil, jealously and hate fall away from us.  … The goal of these so-called Sodomites, gays and lesbians is the decay of the traditional family.   They provoke us, call us Orthodox Fascists, for that they are actually paid by the West, and if the Faith is defamed, we will turn to violence.  Not to demean people, but to bring them to reflection, so that they will not live in sin any more.”

Orthodox “Flagbearers”: “Homosexuality is a Sickness”

The Orthodox Flag Bearers also protested against gays and lesbians, in the summer of 2012 during the attempt of a gay march in Moscow.  Igor Morisnitshenko, Orthodox Flagbearer:  “We don’t want any gays and lesbians in Moscow.  Because Moscow is a city, which is holy to all Russians.  … Homosexuality should be punishable by the law and then: deportation.  Our country is great: to Magadan on the Kolimar.  There they should work, because work heals.  Homosexuality is a sickness which leads to despicable sins.”

Their attention was also drawn to a photo they burned, which showed the Pop-granny “Madonna” in underwear with spread legs, and described her as a witch.

Ecumenism With Orthodoxy and Not With the Zeitgeist Confessions!

Archpriest Vsevolod, chaplain accurately described the character of the Orthodox:  “The Orthodox Christian is a fighter, he must be to defend his homeland and his church.  Naturally within the bounds of the law.  An Orthodox Christian must be prepared to defend his homeland and his Faith with weapons in his hand.  Pacifism is an anti-Christian worldview and the Orthodox Church has always nurtured its faithful to be warriors.”

And: All of the churches of the world which are against homosexuality, it is said from the Moscow Patriarchate.  Western churches are only too cowardly to also say it.

One gladly hears the Humanities religious expert:  “The official position of the Orthodox Church toward homosexuality, for example,  does not differ essentially from that of conservative Catholics.”

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

To draw a contrasting program the Left’s papabile Vienna’s Archbishop, Cardinal Schönborn is cited, as he reported with a creased face about gays in the parish community of Stutzenhofen:  “As I have heard, he is a candidate who lives in a civil partnership, so I said: That won’t do, it is not compatible, Parish Counsellors have to hold the teaching  of the Church and the discipline of the Church” -- and then took, “impressed” by the gay, him under his wing.

Cardinal Schönborn is the Left’s Candidate for Pope

Notes on Vienna’s Archibshop -- It’s Probably Fair to Say, He’s the Candidate of the Left

 “Tell me, who praises you, and I will tell you, who you are.”  On this old saying one may think, if  the completely astonishing media praise is taken for the truth,  which at present and in view of the coming conclave is dedicated to the present Viennese Archbishop.  This can be presently gleaned:

“The tension is a concern.  Especially as Austria’s Cardinal is appearing on all short lists of the international book maker as a candidate.  … Schönborn is considered in the world Church as a proven crisis manager, as partly eager for reform and enjoyed international visibility as the editing director of the world catechism. … The more the point is, says Kirchen-Insider, in the Curia and in the Vatican to be in withdrawal, then the more it needs a still relatively young and strong Pope. Schönboren is at 67 in the best age for a Pope. Notably: Currently Italian media praise Schönborn… and among Europe’s Cardinals Schönborn is a strong name, a well balanced reformer and one, who is open to the progressive wing of the Church.”

These lauds appeared in the local left-gazette “News”, supposedly “Austrias largest news magazine”; the praise is part of an eleven page snide, insulting and anti-Church description of the abdication of Pope Benedict XVI. The praise of Schönborn is also sung with ulterior motives. For example in the also left-leaning “Süddeutschen Zeitung” (16./17.2.2013)

“… apart from that Vienna’s Archbishop Christoph Schönborn brings … much along, that might qualify him -- at 68 years of age also an adequate age and very much experience; and he’s been leading the Archdiocese of Vienna for 13 years. … He is considered one, who can clearly participate and as a guarantor, that the theme of the struggle with sexual abuse will occupy a high place. … It is also mentioned with praise in Rome, that this Cardinal, clothed like a simple priest, arrived by train at the station terminal and took his own luggage himself to the taxi.”

Or the Left boulevard sheet,“Österreich” which offers the erroneous tag line (2/13.2013): “Schönborn is the First Choice”. “Is being considered as the successor… I trust him for that, Schönborn is a very intelligent person. He has also, as he handled himself in the subject of Groer, made a name for himself. I well believe that he has a chance.”

The Left-leaning “Kurier” (2.13.2013) heading: “Schönborn is in Pole Position for New Pope” and likewise the left Italian “La Republica”, in which it says: “Among he foreign candidates Cardinal Christoph Schönborn is the first choice.” As an example of a long harmonious chorus from the Left media world, besides the praises after praise, it is seemingly clear that Schönborn is THE candidate of the Left.

What Could the Reason be?

Even in Austria, there where the view on the activities of the Archbishop of Vienna can’t be obscured by fine words and words effecting orthodoxy to Rome, Cardinal Schönborn has numerous critics among the Pope-loyal, elite of local Catholicism.

An extensive education and high intellect isn’t begrudged is allowed him even by his opponents, yet admitting all of that he doesn’t have the quality of character for his high position, or for the Papal Office.

The enthusiasm of the Left media over Schönborn is no mistake. One had already from the beginning of his time in office seen that while he quickly distanced himself publicly from his relatively conservative (and therefore unloved by the establishment) predecessor with an excessive campaign of character assassination, thereby winning the impression that under Schönborn’s direction, the Church in Austria had become thoroughly instrumentalized -- by the ruling Left and in the service of its interests.

As to the grounds for the Schönbornistic easy past in the here and now, much has been guessed. Some have come to the conclusion that he simply lacks the courage. As he was joined with the Cardinal’s purple, there appears to be no question that he has been very preoccupied.

A great Schönbornistic easy pass (to the establishment) is seen for example, according to local critics, was in the election for the Bundespresident of the Republic in 2010, as the Archbishop made gestures and endorsements, which many interpreted as electioneering for the candidate of the Left.

Or it is seen also in his acceptance expressed to the ruling majority on questions of abortion, where Cardinal Schönborn is not to be seen, for example, in any protests at abortion clinics, he also banned on several times all too vocally and all too effectively resistance (like toward his colleague Bishop Laun) against the abortion business, while he was clearly effective in the media while appearing for a Left-anarchist organized “Asylum” - legitimizing by his visit, the occupation of the Votivkirche in Vienna.

Whether it applies to the “artwork” of a Bolshevik “artist” suddenly put in the church space for exhibition; whether it is for the state recognition of homosexual concubinage, which in no way has ben opposed by him, whether it’s about the public and seemingly excessive payments of ecclesiastical money to the so-called “victims” of ecclesiastical “abuse” or for high ecclesiastical endorsements for Leftist and Liberal politicians, while at the same time Conservatice clerics must fear Archepiscopal criticism or discipline -- Schönborn’s effect on increasingly wider circles is dubious.

Also the countless and truly ostentatiously schonbornistic gestures of piety (Carrying luggage from the train station) may not convince, gives one up and down the impression that they could belong to the subtle medium of an apparently very efficient career plan.

If the Church is proven to be done a good service by a Schönborn Papacy, one may in any case well doubt. From the media’s praise, which takes Schönborn’s side, there are indeed certain circles having a great interest.

We would like would like to give a selection here of critical voices together, which have accompanied Schönborn’s effect in Vienna in the last 13 years. A picture can be formed for one’s self. We will see that this collection will be continually increased.

Link to kreuz.net….

Cardinal Schönborn's Yes to Abortion

Follow up:  The payment for activity in Vienna's  Caritas on Fleischmarkt have been revealed indirectly by statements of Cardinal Schönborn on Public Radio.

See also the article about the endorsement of abortion by Germany's Caritas Director:  "The German Caritas Association is headed by an Abortion-Prelate." [Below]

New in Catholic Spectrum:  Cardinal Schönborn Accepts Abortion

"Press hour" of ORF [Austrian Broadcasting] on the 3rd of December 2006,  interviewers: Andreas Koller ("Salzburg News") and Mathilde Schwabender (ORF).  A cited selection.

Koller:  "Your Eminence, you have formulated your affirmation for life before. How can this be understood as regards the law [Fristenlösung] allowing the termination of pregnancy which has been in effect for some time --  the Catholic Church was not happy with this --, I have the impression that the Catholic Church has resigned itself to the situation.  Now there is another representative, Herr Stadler, who said to me, one can even discuss the termination law, even calling it into question.  Will you also go so far,  that is said, there should be a change in the law regarding the time limit [Fristenlösung]."

Cardinal Schönborn: "Our position from the Bishops, from the Catholic Family Organizations, Pro-Life Organizations, was always clear on this consideration: we are not seeking after the punishment of women in distress, but we expect with justification, that what has always been said since the Kreisky government and has never been strictly adhered to, the so-called supporting measures, which means, in one country, in which demographic questions are really a serious question, it has simply been shown that -- we also have no statistics, but the estimates are still shocking --, that for every child that's born, one is killed.  That really must shock us, that it must horrify us.

What are the supporting measures?  Measures that promote, encourage, that help not to take this step, not to take this step, and I think there are three main corrective actions that would be really necessary.

One is the separation of counseling and abortion, which has long been, for 30 years, a requirement that should simply help to really consider the step well.

The second is, what is self-evident in our country, a statistic, if abortion is not a criminally punishable act,  under certain conditions, then it should at least be clear that it happens every day in our country in this regard.

And the third thing is something that is regarded with too much silence, that of Post-Abortion Syndrome.  We know that from numerous experience of counselors, of those accompanying the women in this situation, that a great hardship is often experienced.  And it's better to enlighten that it is often associated with great emotional stress.  And we ask, and we think it is sensible because the affirmation of life is something so important for each individual and for a country, and we hope that it is possible, to speak with the necessary compassion, but also to speak with the necessary openness."

Koller ("Salzburger Nachrichten"): "Why do you think that in the last six or seven years, nothing happens on this issue, even after all the Christian Social People's Party (ÖVP) was in power?  You have since sought contact on that, so have their been discussions in this direction?"

Cardinal Schönborn:  "There have been intensive discussions, there is a bill for accompanying measures, which is still in the drawer, and it would be nice if this bill, which has been developed by very good lawyers came out again.  It's really just an appeal and encouragement for the affirmation of life"

[Then it is noted Cardinal Schönborn elegantly leads away from the topic]

"To this yes to life also consequently belongs something, which, thanks be to God, is exemplary in Austria through a consensus of all parties, that yes is to life to its end.  We have in Austria, thank God, a clear consensus that we are not going the way of Holland or Belgium, in which euthanasia is allowed,    we want, as Cardinal König said famously shortly before his death, that a person should night die by another's hand, but in the hands of another.  And I think that yes to life is something exemplary, as I have also been in France and Belgium, and very publically say on TV as a credit to our country that has managed to really reach a consensus on the 'yes' to life. [...]"

No comment is necessary...

Link to kreuz.net...

Austrian Caritas Pays Abortion Operation

The Caritas Vienna transferred funds from the contributions of Catholics in the acquiring of the destruction of the weakest of men, the unborn. This according to a report out on "Gloria.tv" of November 2010.

In this report, a postal letter from the asylum center of Caritas Vienna (Mariannengasse 11,1990 Vienna) is to see which is addressed to the "Clinic on Fleischmarkt"  (Abortion Institute, now: "pro: woman", Clinic on Fleischmarkt Company, Fleischmarkt 26, 1010 Wien). [Curiously named "Meat Market"]

The document makes a"hearty thanks" to Caritas Vienna, that a client of Caritas had secured a social tarif of 100 Euro for the clinic on Fleschmarkt and that the client had already "received the award" from us (therefore Caritas Vienna) and the amount will be paid in cash.

Caritas is funded by church contributions. According to the financial management report of 2011 by the Church it received 1.5 millionn Euro. The head of Caritas Vienna is Fr. Michael Landau.

Anyone who has doubts about the authenticity of this letter, let him address himself to the responsible bodies, such as the:

- Vienna Archdiocese under Cardinal Christoph Schönborn

- Caritas of the Archdiocese of Vienna under Fr. Micahel Landau

-or to the President of the Austrian Caritas, Franz Küberl.

No one will deny the authenticity of this letter.

In keeping with the practice of Caritas is the de facto consent of Cardinal Schönborn on abortion to the press at ORF in 2006.

Caritas -- Lair of Leftist Catholicism

One can not avoid the impression that the charity is on the way to turn Holy Church into a money oriented, social club, to soften the nature of Holy Church and decompose it from within. Otherwise it's not comprehensible that the Caritas funds from Church donations by Catholics are put to misuse and contributes to the destruction to make an end of the lives of so many innocent people -- even though it is the express will of God, not to kill!

From Caritas to the Anti-Clerical "Green"

So it is no coincidence that the national director of the Neo-Marxist Postmodernist Party "The Greens", Stefan Wallner, who has changed directly from Vienna Caritas to the morally destructive Greens and then from there has raised a visor for the political works engaged in the protection of trees and shrubs, obtaining the destruction of the weakest people, the unborn.

And still further, it is probably no accident that Pope Benedict XVI. has decreed in his Motu Proprio "About the Service of Charity". It says, among other things:

In carrying out their charitable activity, therefore, the various Catholic organizations should not limit themselves merely to collecting and distributing funds, but should show special concern for individuals in need and exercise a valuable educational function within the Christian community, helping people to appreciate the importance of sharing, respect and love in the spirit of the Gospel of Christ. The Church’s charitable activity at all levels must avoid the risk of becoming just another form of organized social assistance

The mission of Caritas is therefore neither abortion, the alienation of church money and the widespread misuse of the Austrian social system, nor the abuse of asylum and the associated degradation of the rule of law.

And now for the Sister Act Liturgy!

Edit: Vienna's infamous Cathedral Rector is the one with the rainbow chasuble.




H/t: Rorate Caeli.

Theological Pogrom Against the Society of St. Pius X

Austria. [kreuz.net] On the 30th of Junuary 2013, the Archdiocese of Vienna is to organize a lecture against the Society of St. Pius X in the confines their Old Liberal "Theological Course". The Viennese Cardinal Christoh Schönborn is himself known to leave the Society outside on the stoop and to treat Old Liberals with great hospitality. The event is being aired under the title "The Society of Pius and the Council". The lecturer is the anti-Church dogmatic theologian, Fr. Wolfgang Beinert (79).

One SSPX newly ordained priest was not able to use the facilities, when a well-intentioned priest of the Archdiocese, Fr. Vasile Ciobanu, wanted to allow him to use his home parish, and was told he couldn't after asking permission of the Vienna Archdicoese. Meanwhile, the Danube Cardinal frequently makes every effort to accommodate dissidents of every variety, like the infamous Pfarrers' Initiative.

Also, Fr. Wolfgang Beinert, who's written an unfortunate book about the SSPX, disparaged a statement by the German District Superior that the truths of the Faith are unchanging as "bourgeois stubbornness", but what one can expect from the Archdiocese of Vienna.

++Schönborn Triumphant at Pope Benedict's Schülerkreis

‘Ratzinger Schülerkreis’ Is Now in Session

Edit: Vienna's Pornography Cardinal practically gloats as he describes Cardinal Ratzinger's programme for the American Neoconservative Catholic Register. In his interview with Vatican Radio on 30 August, he dissembled:

“The fact that the Holy Father has chosen this theme for the meeting this year is a sign that the ecumenical question is of primary importance for him” 

After years of frustrating the Pope's initiatives in Austria and undermining his authority by giving in to dissidents, promoting Medjugorje, and slyly promoting homosexuality by overturning a pastor's decision when he tried to reject a parish council member who was an active homosexual earlier this year.

All of that is forgotten, as the Cardinal waxes sensitively about the very close relationship between himself and the Holy Father, and yet there is not one word of criticism from NCR.

“It is an academic circle, and this means that what counts are the arguments,” said Cardinal Schönborn. “Of course there is the question of friendships that have been built up after so many years, we have met for over 30 years, every year, and now we are almost at the point of retirement!”

A key component of the annual get together is, of course, the involvement of Pope Benedict himself. Cardinal Schönborn said the Pope’s disposition throughout is not merely academic but also “paternal” and “fraternal” towards his former students. “What strikes us is how the Holy Father always knows his pupils, he always asks about their family, children, and when there is suffering in a family he knows about it, he cares deeply,” the Austrian cardinal said.

The basis for much of the group’s studies this week will be Cardinal Walter Kasper’s 2009 book Harvesting the Fruits, which explores Catholic relations with Anglicanism and Lutheranism.

The discussion on Lutheranism will be led by the German Lutheran Bishop-Emeritus Ulrich Wilckens, while the Swiss Catholic Bishop Charles Morerod of Geneva, Lausanne and Fribourg will lead the discussion on Anglicanism.

“With the Holy Father, we expect a dialogue in truth and charity: in the truth that does not conceal the drama of division among Christians in Europe and, as a consequence, all over the world, but also the great issue of what is the reform of the Church, a theme of utmost importance to the Holy Father,” Cardinal Schönborn remarked.

Pope Benedict’s 26-year academic career involved him teaching at universities in Bonn, Munster, Tubingen and Regensburg. He was appointed archbishop of Munich and Freising in 1977.
Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/ratzinger-schuelerkreis-is-now-in-session/#ixzz25AqztrNj

"In Medjogorje the Gospa Waits" -- for the Homo-Porn Cardinal

Edit: Just to head you off at the pass, the accusation being made below that this Cardinal is protecting the Austrian abortion industry and promoting homosexuality is well documented.  Kreuz.net's opinion of the intelligence of Neoconservatives you can infer for yourself.

A Pious Entrance for the Stupid Neoconservatives

Kirche in Medjugorje
© gnuckx, Flickr, CC

The Viennese Cardinal --- who protects sodomy and the violence of abortion -- has renewed his defense of the Medjugorje time bomb.

(kreuz.net, Medjugorje)  The Old Liberal Vienese homosexual-pornography Cardinal Christoph Schönborn has a flowery word of greeting to a youth festival to the false Marian apparition site Medjugorje in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

This was reported by the Archdiocese of Vienna.

Interfering in the Affairs of a Foreign Diocese


The youth festival took place this week.

With the words of greeting, Cardinal Schönborn stabbed his colleague who has forbidden pilgrimages to the false apparition site.

The Loving Closeness of the Lie


Yet still the Cardinal sent the youthful apparitionists his blessing which he inserted effeminately in a disordered way:

"It fills me with joy and admiration that you take all the trouble you to come to this so hot and secluded place where you do not expect a sea beach, no pool, but where a mother is waiting for you, Our Lady who each of you knows and loves. "

The prince of the church wishes the young people at the false apparition site, the experience of the "so loving closeness" of the Gospa.

The Biggest Hoax in Europe


With the statement that Medjugorje is supposedly, "the largest confessional in Europe" the homo-porn Cardinal said, that confession in the Conciliar Church has been abolished in most European countries.

He expressed his hopes for the youth that they have "a wonderful time in the community of the Church, which is living and brings us home".

 They will like being sent "by the Gospa and her Son".

Link to kreuz.net...

Oh, But Cardinal Schönborn Can Criticize the Council

If the Society of St. Pius X had said the same, then all hell would break loose.  But the Viennese Cardinal one knows, that he will say everything and especially the opposite of everything.

Kardinal Christoph von Schönborn
© Pressefoto bischofskonferenz.at 

(kreuz.net)On July 20th the Old Liberal Viennese Porn-Cardinal Christoph Schönborn had an appearance at the neo-conservative Jungfamilientreffen [Young Family Gathering] in the 2000 population community of Pöllau in the Diocese of Graz-Seckau.

As if the World Were Still in Order


The Cardinal previously entered the Order of the Dominicans in 1963.  With him were 18 novices.

Then the instruction was in Latin, he recalled.

He is supposed to have received a classical Dominican education.

With the Second Vatican Council the Crisis Came

During the Council -- in the years 1964 or 1965 -- the "great Church crisis" began.

There were unbelievable "upheavals, ruptures, but above all ruptures".

The Church had seen ruptures, launches, transitions and beginnings, spluttered the well-spoken Cardinal.

Total Collapse

In the novitiate of the Dominicans the most recent reports from the Council were read during mid-day.

An unbelievable mood of enchantment reigned.  The largest however:

"Withing a few years, the Cloister almost lost half of its number.  The vocations dropped radically.


Brothers who had been years in the Cloister, married and went away.


Within ten years 80,000 priests in the Catholic Church left their offices to marry.


You must understand that my euphoria about the rupture of the Council simply from that, what I had experienced, is very defined.


It was much more in view of the rupture, but it was a powerful rupture. It was a powerful downturn, also."

The Council Heralded the Decline

Cardinal Schönborn explained that the Austrian Dominican Province had closed the three of its four cloisters:

"From the four Dominican cloisters, which were in Austria, only one would remain."

Much of it which was then existing in the 50s and 60s are today, lost.

A Clearly Non-Existent Generation

Catholic children and youth found themselves to be in a minority.

The Cardinal noted this from his own experience in the parishes.  There are "sometimes" even individual youth.

Upon asking the children, who had more classmates in the school, who regularly went to Mass on Sunday, he received the answer:  "I am the only one".


The Cardinal concludes from that one Generation - obviously non-existent - may grow, which is experiencing a radical experience of practicing Christianity as a minority.

Link to kreuz.net...

Cardinal Schönborn "I see the danger of a Schism"

© Thomas Beranek, Pressefoto
bischofskonferenz.at

Austria's Media Bosses Leak Priest Council Protocols

The Old Liberal Viennese Cardinal has turned against the "Ungehorsams-Initiative" in a cosmetic sense. For example: "Please cease travelling: I hope I don't have to put this request in the form of a command."

 (kreuz.net, Vienna) Today the Viennese daily "Kurier" published excerpts from the protocols of the meeting of Vienna's priest council of the 10th of May. There the founder of the 'Ungehorsams-Initiative" [Call to Disobedience] , Father Helmut Schuller, is also a member.

 The Viennese Cardinal Christoph von Shonborn announced at the meeting that he will not name any more deans who are members of the "Ungehorsams-Initiative": "I can not say, you are going to be a Dean and act at the same time in the Call to Disobedience."

  No serious consequences 

Additionally the Cardinal forbid the members of the Ungehorsams-Initiative, from travelling through the land and holding events advertising the Disobedience Initiative.

 For that reason, there couldn't be any missions.

 He asked "for a pause in the "travelling apostolate" in the next months": "Please cease travelling: I hope I won't have to put this request in the form of a command."

Cardinal Schonborn is in a glass house


Cardinal Schonborn indicated that it was unusual that the Pope had preached about the Initiative on Holy Thursday.

"We aren't just in our local church, but are a glass house to the entire world."

The Austrian church will be "very closely watched" -- said the Schism-Prince of the Church.

"I see the danger of Schism"

Fr. Schuller doesn't believe that the Archdiocese of Vienna can find a solution for his hyped questions.

"We don't want to climb out of the boat, but we to stand at the helm and discuss the course".

Cardinal Schonborn had addressed this, that these disobedient ones are creating an alternate structure: "I see the danger of a schism".

Link to kreuz.net....

Viennese Gomorrah Diocese Out of Control: Parish Council Election Overturned

Edit: Vienna's Archdiocese is stonewalling, no pun intended, conservative pastors who are trying to keep parish committees from being stacked with un-Catholic elements.

Pornography Cardinal!

In the case of the homosexual parish council member of Stützenhofen, whom the parish pastor then rejected , only to be overturned by the Cardinal of Vienna, wasn't just a single incident.

 (kreuz.net) On May 3rd the Viennese homosexual pornography Cardinal Christoph Schönborn annuled the parish council election in Penzig.

This was reported by the Pastor there-- Fr. Christian Sieberer -- in an open letter on the parish website 'pfarre-penzig.at'.

Pastor Sieberer well known throughout Austria for his media work.

The annulment followed as a result of a so-called 'Expert Committee Parish Council -- Electoral Advisory of Vicariats in the City of Vienna'.

It was concerned with the election on March 18th.  This had considerable consequences.

The Archdiocese of Vienna Explains:  The Pastor has the Right of Veto

On the 20th of January Pastor Sieberer spoke in a long telephone meeting about the possibility of a pastor to reject unsuitable candidates.

The Cardinal then explained that a pastor has a right of veto to reject according to his opinion, which he doesn't need to substantiate.

He promised to address the question with the Prefect of the Clergy, Cardinal Mauro Piacenza.

On February 9th Pastor Sieberer received a written answer of the Viennese Ordinariat Chancellor, Prelate Walter Mick.

The Chancellor of the Ordinariat confirmed the right of veto.

He also cited an example where candidates will not fulfill the prescriptions for the right of veto.

The Pastor Used his Confirmed Right of Veto


Pastor Sieber used his right of veto confirmed in writing.

He explained n February 15th that there were objections raised against three people.

These candidates were not placed on the election list.

The Cardinal Breaks His Word

On the 23rd of February the Episcopal Vicar Dariusz Schutzki suddenly requested a reason for the veto of the pastor.

Fr. Sieberer began an "drawn out research", why he had to substantiate his veto.

He found that Cardinal Schönborn had changed his opinion through his Episcopal Vicar.

The Pastor conceded "as a sign of good will".

He offered a thorough reason.

The General Vicar Announced:  Forego Unsuitable Candidates

On the 13th of March the Episcopal Vicar Schutzki cited a discussion with the Viennese General Vicar, Nikolaus Krasa.

In the discussion Fr. Sieberer learned that the persons, against whom he had exercised his right of veto,  will "probably" have their candidacy forgone.

The election must take place in any case, on the 18th of March.

On the 14th of March the Pastor  informed the General Vicar Schutzki by telephone that the number of the twelve chosen candidates had to be reduced to nine, ten or eleven persons.

Election Advisory Confirms Proposals in Last Seconds

One hour later Fr. Sieberer received an e-mail from the Episcopal Vicar that the number of the chosen will be confirmed at nine.

That was not until six hours before the initial end of the nomination.

Pastor Sieberer announced as quickly as possible the candidates and that the election would take place.

The management of the election hired an attorney outside of the parish.

Because the Diocesan direction had given its final confirmation so lately, Father Sieberer could not make certain preparations as director holding the election board.

For that reason a timely announcement of the election and a correct presentation of the candidates was foregone.

Fr. Sieberer simply proceeded, assuming that his thoroughly justified veto against the candidature of three persons was valid.

Because:  The Diocesan direction had never told him otherwise.

Considering that, the Pastor went on the discussion with the General Vicar that the three people concerned would "probably" have their candidacy rejected.

What about an election committee that errs in its own form?

Finally, the parish committee election was annulled because of defects in form.

The short-term confirmation of the number of the candidates by the Vicariate Election Advisory had been unlawful.

Fr. Sieberer countered that the lack of form had been "solely the responsibility of the Diocesan direction and the Vicariate Election Committee".

But: "Probably no one in the Parish of Penzing will understand, why we needed this illegal proceeding >>on our backs<< [Auf unsre Kappe], with all of the expense and the agitation about the election being postponed an indeterminate amount of time."

Fr. Sieberer asked what the purpose of a Vicariate Election Advisory, "when this did not note procedural errors, which it considered after the election as >>massive deficiencies and errors<<."

He would have expected that those responsible in the Archdiocese as experts of their own proposed guidelines:

"I especially would have thought, that all the pretense of an election committee over the requirements of form can be dispensed."

In any case Pastor Sieberer is filing an appeal against the annulment in Rome.

He has also advised that he will file his veto against the unsuitable candidates in the next electin as well.

Link to original kreuz.net....

Softball La Stampa Interview: Vienna Pornography Cardinal Justifies Himself

The incredibly duplicitous Porno-Cardinal is at it again and Tornielli lets him off the hook. The way that some of these official news sources stage handle the bad guys is really beyond the pale.

www.vaticaninsider.com

Edit: The Vaticantista Andrea Tornielli at La Stampa's 'Vatican Insider' asked some difficult questions but not the most obvious one, and allowed Prince Cardinal Christoph von Schönborn, to create a pretense of personal orthodoxy which is belied by this Cardinal's various public actions in years past. His treatment of a pastor who +Schönborn overruled, when he rejected the election of Florian Stangl, remains a disgrace that remains unatoned for. The priest later resigned after being hung out to dry by the Cardinal.

When Tornielli asks for an explanation of the Cardinal's feelings about Stangl, he demurred this time citing Stangl's privacy as a primary concern. This hasn't prevented the Cardinal from praising Stangl in the past.

What's even more disgraceful is that when asked about his dealings with Stangl, he claims he simply chose not to intervene. This again is not the truth. He intervened on behalf of Stangl against the pastor's decision.

+Schönborn also suggests, incredibly, that we're all sinners and that the Church's teaching on sodomy hasn't changed. Unfortunately, this isn't going to satisfy many on either side, but surely, many will regard this wink and a nod as am excuse. The Cardinal also dooesn't explain, nor does Tornielli ask how being an unrepentant homosexual living in homosexual concubinage qualifies one to be in a leadership position in Church. Surely, we're all sinners, some of us, like the Cardinal, tell blatant falsehoods, and others of us cause scandal by giving the active appearance of approval for sinful activity. The Catechism reads:

2284 Scandal is an attitude or behavior which leads another to do evil. The person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor's tempter. He damages virtue and integrity; he may even draw his brother into spiritual death. Scandal is a grave offense if by deed or omission another is deliberately led into a grave offense.

Surely, the Cardinal is referring to himself when he justifies an unrepentant homosexual holding a position of authority in a Catholic parish, that being in a state of sin is no reason to remove a man from office?

Some dissent is ok, as the Cardinal dissembles about how he's going to non-handle other dissidents in Austria.  Surely, since he is preparted to discipline one-man-show, Msgr Helmut Schüller of Call to Disobedience and the Pfarrer's Initiative. Surely, he should be ready to NOT interfere and allow his pastor to do his job?

Will his neo-conservative supporters in the United States come to his aid, we wonder....

Vatican Downslider....

Vienna Cathedral Number 2 Has Account on Homosexual Dating Site

40 Year old Employee of the
 Archdiocese of Vienna on 'gayromeo'

Edit:  In light of the Vienna Cardinal's recent attacks against a priest who attempted to guard his parish against scandal, it seems appropriate to air this.  It's unclear whether or not the "employee" is a member of the clergy or not, but he's clearly not suited to work for any Diocese, not even one as corrupt as Vienna.

An employee of the decadent Archdiocese of Vienna searches a hookup site for homosexual partners, in order to wallow in his depravity.

(kreuz.net)  A leading member of the Viennese Archdiocese has a profile at the homosexual  hookup site 'gayromeo'.

Sodomites look for Aids contacts with strangers.

The site is one of the largest spreaders of Aids in the world.

Frequently changing partners in depravity is a sure component of  homosexual degeneracy.

The Number Two Man in Vienna's Cathedral Parish

One of the gommorists, who prostitutes himself on the publicly accessible hustler site, is C. D. H.

He is the chancellery director of Vienna's Cathedral and the right hand of Vienna's alchohol and boulevard Cathedral Pastor Anton Faber.

H. operates a profile on 'gayromeo' with the name "iucundus".

The word "iucundus" is latin.  It means, pleasant, attractive or enjoyable.

For sure

H's user account registers 45 people as "personally known".

On the other hand, he is known personally by 994 people.

The homosexual homepage describes the profile as "guaranteed true".

Only abstinence serves against Aids

Besides his activity in the chancellery, H is active with "Maltese Aids Service".

According to some information in the city center of Vienna, is 1.83 meters high and weights 76kilos.

He smokes and has no tattoos or metal piercings.

He Trusts the Fallible Condom

H. uses the logo of "Dark Angel" on the hookup site.

That means that he will only have sex with the fallible condom.

As a rule only gommorists do this who are infected with the homosexual disease, HIV.

Paint and Leather

H. is looking for partners in fornication between the ages of 26 and 40.

There are things he will not do with strangers, however.

He tells the world that he likes to dress as a punk, soldier or policeman.

Otherwise he loves skin-tight textiles made of paint and leather.

A decided homosexually disturbed person 

In his description he praises himself as "sensible", "careful", "attentive", "clever",  "endowed" and "talented" and "decisive" as well.

He is not one who "quickly and easily makes friends".

But he is "extremely loyal" to his homosexual friends.

H. has to admit that the self-praise might sound "somewhat crass":  but it's "simply" the truth.

Throw life away

The "dream of his life", before putting his finger on his eternal damnation: "I have lived and loved and will be loved".

The visitor to H's hustler site is asked to press the "sex pig" button which is provided.

Those shy perverts can push the button that reads "Only when drunk".

Link to original....

Edit: One of the commenters from kreuz.net writes about the self-inflicted nature of Aids in Germany (and presumably elsewhere)

Jubärens 17:30:28 | Dienstag, 24. April 2012 "Over 90 percent of the new infections in Germany are transmitted sexually.  Approximately three quarters of new HIV infections in 2011 were according to estimates from men who have sex with other men;  about 20 percent from heterosexual contacts.  Only five percent of new infections were traceable back to intravenous drug use.  New infections passed on from mother to child were reduced to a few isolated cases."  (Spiegel Online 2011 as a Commentary to the RKI- Press service)   This means that about 75 percent of those infected with HIV are active homosexuals.  The estimated figure of homosexuals in Germany from 2,000 is about 1.6% as well as 2.5 % bisexual.  This means that about the 1.6% of the homosexual population is responsible for 75% of the new Aids cases.

Another Homosexual Affirmed on Parish Counsel in Austria

He Awaits the Breakthrough of the Swelling Boil

Edit: take note of the people who defend ++Schoenborn and downplay his erosion of the Church's authority.

(Kreuz.net) The homosexual Markus Casna (44) has been selected for the third time as Parish Counsel.

Fabulous!

This was met with celebration by the online edition of the anti-Church Austrian newspaper, 'Standard' yesterday.

The Parish Provost, Micheal Blassnigg (51) has "no problem with it".

He is a secular priest from Niedernsill, which borders on south east to Kaprun.

The Put Themselves on the Way to Hell


Casna has been living since he was 19 with another homosexual together in open sin -- which calls to heaven for vengeance.

Two years ago he had his atrocity registered by the decadent state.

"All men are equal before God", explained Casna -- and dismisses the fact that unrepentant homosexual sinners go to Hell.

Homosexually troubled people have turned the decadent Conciliar Church on its side:  "Parish Provost Blasnigg and also Parish Director Toni Fersterer support me."

A Dean Persuaded the Homosexual

In 2001, the Dean (75) spoke with Casna.

He told him that would like to see him as Parish Counsel:  "He knew then that I was in a homosexual relationship."

Casna let himself be persuaded.

A Boil Swelled

The homosexual made no secret of his devilish anti-Catholic disposition:

"Confession was invented in the Middle Ages, and celibacy is an invention also of the Roman Catholic Church" -- he blathered.

The Disobedience Initiative is "on a good path".

He is confident that the "breakthrough" will succeed.

This homosexual is also enchanted by Vienna's homosexual pornography Cardinal.

That the Cardinal spit in the face of the Gospel and blessed a homosexual parish administrator is for Casna, "practically an Easter gift".

In the Conciliar Church, the Catholic is Stupid

The Civil Pastor Blassnigg praised the homosexually troubled Casna in the highest tones.

On the other hand he is damned by Pastor Gerhard Swierzek of Stutzenhofen. [Who recently resigned when he was overruled by ++Schoenborn]

"If you don't deal with homosexuality, that is the smartest."

A Conscience-Free National Socialist Legal Positivism

Fr. Blassnigg sees the Cardinal in a positive light:

If one sees "the man", one sees things differently -- he distorted.

He presents a conscience-free legal positivism: "canon law will eventually change, it just takes longer".

Link ...

Austria: Homosexual Counsel Member's Pastor Resigns

The clergyman stressed that he has a priestly conscience and respects divine and ecclesiastical law -- in opposition to the Viennese Porno-Cardinal.

(kreuz.net) Fr. Gerhard Swierzek has submitted his resignation as pastor of the community of Stutzenhofen in the Archdiocese of Vienna.

He submitted it -- according to reports from news agency 'APA' -- to the Viennese Cardinal Christoph Graf Schönborn.

The clergyman had tried to defend the Stutzenhofen Parish Counsel against the illegitimate election of a homosexual provacateur, Florian Stangl (26).

Fr. Swiezek will continue serving the other two communities.

The Cardinal Has to Travel

The clergyman explained that it makes him "saddened" that throughout the scandal, he was unable to have a meeting with Cardinal Schönborn.

Instead, the Porn Cardinal met with the shameless homosexual boy and his unreasonable Aids-infected partner and invited them to the table on the 24th of March, thus encouraging them in their mortal sin.

Now Father Swierzek hopes for a meeting with the Cardinal "after his trip abroad."

Honesty is the Best Policy

Fr. Swierzek explained that he couldn't remain active in a parish, whose members wanted their right at any price.

He has a priestly conscience and respects divine and ecclesiastical law -- as opposed to the Cardinal.

The clergyman referred to statements by Pope John Paul II and the 'Catechism of the Catholic Church' concerning homosexual immorality.

Living in sin is not considered to be the norm in a Catholic Church community.

It is much more the task of a priest to bring a sinner to penance.

Fr. Swierzek Swiezek is convinced that the people themselves want an honest priest.

Link to kreuz.net...

+Schönborn Gomorrah's White Knight

Edit: Look who jumps to the defense of the Cardinal, then build your enemies list.


Cadinal Schönborn Contradicts the Sixth Commandment

Austria. At yesterday's chrism Mass Christoph Cardinal Schönborn preached about communication with people, who are publicly or shamelessly living in sin.   It often leaves clergy powerless, he driveled.  Then suggested a "friendship with Jesus" in opposition to "adherence to Church teaching".  The Cardinal then alluded to three forms of bawdiness -- the wild marriage, the adulterous civil marriage and homosexual partnerships.  He believes, clearly referring to himself, that chastity is too little "lived, taught or demonstrated".   For that reason, clergy stand in a supposedly "very real difficulty of a complete incomprehension (the media bosses) for that, which the Church has taught over marriage, continence, fruitfulness and indissolubility."   This incomprehension is combined in that Cardinal Schönborn himself slaps the teaching in the face by his own actions.

Cardinal Schönborn is a Glimmering Hope for Homosexuality


Austria. The Salzburg elder-society 'Taxhamer Parish Community Initiative" praised the Viennese Cardinal Christoph von Schönborn for his complicity in enabling a homosexual Parish Councilman, Florian Stangl.  Ex-Reichsender (formerl a  Nazi radio station) was overjoyed with this.  "For me it is a glimmer of hope, because Cardinal Schönborn has shown that people are more important for him than rules"  -- declared the speaker for the elderly group, Leopold Prenninger.  Other Bishops should orient themselves on the Old Liberal Cardinal:  "Because Cardinal Schönborn is not just anyone."  With Prenninger's argument, the National Socialist movement could be justified.

Link to original...

Cardinal Schönborn Possessed by His Demons in the Cathedral

For about two years the bare breasted grotesque has defaced the Viennese Stephansdom and the memory of a Nun murdered by the National Socialists.

(kreuz.net, Vienna) On Saturday evening the Old Liberal Cardinal Christoph von Schönborn opened an exposition with the theme "The Cross in Sculpture" in his Cathedral museum.

This was reported by the Austrian news agency "kathpress".

On display are about sixty works from sixteen who hate the Church.

Among them is a satire of the cross, Blasphemers by Alfred Hrdlicka (+2009).

Hrdlicka considered himself to be an admirer of the Soviet murderer of peoples, Josef Stalin (+1953).

Cardinal Schönborn is enchanted by Hrdlicka's blasphemies.

Old Catholic Baptism as an Opportunity


For his opening speech, the Cardinal went especially to Hrdlicka's botched works.

He struggled to describe Hrdlicka's parents, who had been slaves of Communism, as victims.

So they had allowed their son to be baptized Old Catheolic for that reason, so that their six year old son would not suffer any disadvantages during the glorious government of martyr and Bundes Chancellor Engelbert Dolfuss (+1934).

Actually, Dolfuss didn't belong like Hrdlicka or the Cardinal, to an Old Catholic or Old Liberal sect, rather the Church.

He was murdered by the National Socialists.  Even that would have been -- had he lived in this time -- not have happened to the opportunistic Cardinal.

Hrdlicka was always demonstrably atheist.  He was buried in 2009 by the Viennese scandal pastor, Anton Faber, in an enormous and public Catholic Funeral.

Cardinal Praises the Grotesque


Even more striking the Cardinal mentioned a shameless 80,000 Euros which was paid in 2009 for the Hrdlicka ordered Demon Display which hangs in the Cathedral today.

The figure defaces a memorial of the Holy Nun, Sister Restituta Kafka (+1943).

Se was murdered by the anti-Catholic National Socialists.

The bust in the Saint Stephen's Cathedral shows a black haired whore with bare breasts.

The names of Communist political prisoners are engraved on it.

Heaven and Hell Can Not be Together

Cardinal von Schönborn  praised the disgraceful connection of the saintly nun with the Communist hooligans.

That shows that Sister Resituta was hung "in the middle of Communist street car workers in the Brigittenau" [20th District of Vienna].

The crucial difference between the two was not noted by the Cardinal:  while Sister was received into heaven, the executed Communists who went to their deaths despising God did not."

Communists Hate Mercy


The prince of the Church found touching words for the political criminals.

As they supposedly  had committed "only crimes" in the eyes of the National Socialists, the Cardinal determined that the crosses on the graves of the "colleagues" could have been placed:

"In the Christian understanding, this deed was an act of mercy" --  as the Cardinal had a misfire.

Sister Restituta was supposed to have grown very close to the Communistic dregs in prison -- slandered the Cardinal.

Hrdlicka had memorialized this connection, in which he engraved the names of the Communists on the bare breast of his representation of  a witch.

Link to kreuz.net...

Flawed YouCat Youth Catechism by Flawed Cardinal Selling Well

Edit: The Catechism published by the German Bishops' pornography distributor, Weltbild, seems to be enjoying a great deal of popularity despite questions about its truthfulness to Catholic teaching. It is the brainchild of Cardinal Schoenborn.

Best selling Catholic book worldwide?

New Youth Catechism

The following comes from a February 23 story by the Catholic News Agency 

The co-creator of the Church’s catechism for young people has revealed that it's now the top selling Catholic book in the world. 

“The latest figures show that Youcat has sold 1.7 million copies worldwide. It’s been a great success in nearly every country where it has been published,” said German publisher Bernard Meuser in a Feb. 23 interview with the Catholic News Agency. 

“For example, it is number one in Spain, number one in America, and number one in Germany along with the Pope’s latest book.” 

Link to article...

H/t: Stella Borealis....