"The Pope Wants to Recognize the SSPX"

The General Superior of the Society spoke at the Chartres Pilgrimage about the efforts toward reconciliation with the Vatican.

Bischof Fellay bei der Wallfahrt nach Orléans.
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(kreuz.net, Orleans)  Since Saturday and till Monday the Society f St. Pius X marched from Chartres to Orleans.

In the last year, Paris was the pilgrim's goal.

But this year the Society are recognizing the 600th birthday of the French national heroine, St. Joan of Arc (+1431)  who was born in Orleans.

Shennanigans of the City


The Pius Pilgrims didn't know for long where the concluding Mass would take place in Orleans.

The authorities of the city were really intent on sabotaging the event.

The Society requested some land near the Cathedral in the center of the city.   The authorities expressed their concerns about that.

Then the place agreed upon and the Society began with its planning.

Two weeks before the beginning of the pilgrimage, a denial came out of the blue.

The concluding Mass would therefore have to take place on the peninsula of Charlemagne on the harbor of Loire at the doors of the city.

The Church is at an End

On Pentecost Sunday Bishop Bernard Fellay -- the General Superior of the Society -- celebrated Holy Mass for the pilgrims.

He preached long in French, English and German.

The General Superior touched upon the subject of the destruction of the Church and talked about the Pastoral Council.

Humanly speaking the distorted figure of the Church can not be saved from this crisis -- he said.

Actually, one can't think humanly.  The Church will remain, because She is the bride of Christ.

Bishop Fellay Can't see all the Cards


The Bishop explained that the Society is full of mistrust and fear in the things of the discussion with the Vatican.

One sees how poorly the traditional societies reconciled with the Vatican have been managed -- even those, who have only a light inclination to tradition.

The Society have to proceed with great intelligence.

Somehow or other:  The Society will fight on

At the same time Bishop Fellay sees the possibility that the Society will be recognized.

If the reconciliation threatened the existence of the Society, then it would be rejected.

At the same time it's not a question of imposing God's will.

Will the Pope Follow Through to the End Despite Opposition?

Of one thing is Msgr Fellay certain:  "The Pope wants to recognize the SSPX."

The Bishop then put the question if Benedict XVI is in a position to bring the situation to a conclusion:

"Will he give in, if he is confronted with pressure, with opposition?"

Lack of Unity in Faith

At present there are many open questions.

Msgr Fellay mentioned the Dogmatic Discussions and the various ways of weighing the Pastoral Council.

Link to kreuz.net...

Benedict XVI: "It would be easier for me not to recognize the Society"

The struggle for Unity

The SSPX is at a crossroads. The Pope is pusing for a decision -- with or against the Vatican. 

(kreuz.net) The structure Rome is offering the Society of St. Pius X is "unbelievably convenient". General Superior Bishop Bernard Fellay said this at the end of a sermon in Vienna. A section of the sermon is on the videoportal 'gloria.tv'.


"We remain, what we are"


After the upcoming possible recognition there would be no noticeable difference compared to now, says Msgr Fellay:

"We will remain what we are."

The guarantee of the freedom of the Society is something Bishop Fellay views as a problem.  At the moment several points are unclear.

There is a fear that the Vatican will attempt to manipulate the SSPX.

Bishops want to prevent the reconciliation

Bishop Fellay recognized that the offer to the Society is also controversial in the official Church.

At the same time he assures that the Pope personally desires that the reconciliation with the Society will take place.

There could be no doubt:  "But it is also surely not what all in the Church desire".

"Much Pressure"

Msgr Fellay does not know the further course of the negotiations.

It could be that the Pope will decide within days or weeks.

Or  the proceedings could be sent back to the CDF.

There is "much pressure" in the Vatican.

The Pope is preparing for some blows

Bishop Fellay cited what the Pope has said about the situation of the Society.

Benedict XVI said:  "I know that it would  be easier for me and the Society, to leave things in their current situation."

The Holy Father knows that after he "will receive blows" for a reconciliation.

With or Against Rome?


Finally, Bishop Fellay explained that the current "seemingly comfortable" situation is coming to an end for the Society.

The current way will not contine:  "It will be a with or  against Rome from this point on."

Both will be hard.

Link to kreuz.net...

Accompany the Last Phase of Reconciliation with "Prayer and Silence" --- says +Fellay

This Wednesday on the 16th of May the Congregation for Doctrine will confer in a principle meeting on the canonical recognition of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X.  Then Pope Benedict will give the last word.

The General Superior of the Society, Bishop Bernard Fellay, who has a large majority behind him in striving for the reconciliation with the Holy See acknowledges that the reconciliation no longer excludes the separation of a part of the Society provoked by the reconciliation. In a CNS interview Msgr Fellay stressed that he considers the offer of Pope Benedict XVI as "straightforward" and that the Pope is the driving force behind the reconciliation.  Fellay himself wants to still wait till things can be more clear.  Probably also because the canonical structure of the Society will have to undergo a practical test for unity:  "But it probably really appears as though the Holy Father wants it to happen now."

The General Superior defended his course of reconciliation toward Rome in the CNS interview.  At the same time he cautions: "We don't want to commit suicide".  There is still no reunification, the Superior is cited as saying,  "It's still not too late."  There is above all the necessity of clarification whether the Vatican "proposed structures and qualifications are practical",   so that the Society may be "free to develop" itself.

A few days earlier the General House recognized the unauthorized publication of internal documents as "worthy of condemnation".  Those responsible were accused of a breech of trust amd to have "committed a serious sin",  which will "further strengthen the agitators of division".

In view of the delicate situation in the Church with the unification process, Catholics should respond with "prayer and silence", says Msgr Fellay and to accompany this phase of the talks with the Holy See with "doubled prayers, so that only God's will happens, for the good of the Church and the salvation of souls."

Link to katholisches....

SSPX: A Spectacular Reading from the Pulpit

Bishop Fellay and Msgr Pozzo

© Piusbruderschaft

 Edit:  A special announcement is to take place in Germany about the Preamble which will contain new information.  The day will also be the anniversary of the death of the Society's former superior, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre who died 21 years ago in 1991.

Tomorrow a public statement will be read from the pulpit in the Priories of the German District of the Society of St. Piux X regarding the state of negotiations with Rome.

(kreu.net)  Today the website of the District of the Society of St. Pius X has produced a chronology of the talks with Rome.

The chronicle is an overview of a span of time from the Second Vatican Council to today.

It maintains that the Pastoral Council is supposed to have decided upon a "modernization of the Catholic Church".

For that reason the "Phalanx of the progressives" are supposed to have held sway against the "conservative Conciliar Fathers".

A Sensational Success

The Society of St. Pius X was founded on 1 November 1970 by Bishop François Charrière († 1976) of Freiburg.

The first superior was Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (+1991).  He began with four seminarians.

The Pope Has Never Abrogated the Society  


The society was abrogated a year later by the modernistic French Bishops.

The chronicle comments:  "Now it states clearly in canon law, that an ecclesiastical society, which has been legitimately erected canonically, can only be abrogated by the Pope himself."

Indeed:  "Until the present day, such a Papal abrogation has not taken place."

The Media Bosses Work With False Reports

The chronicle went in detail into the talks between the Society and the Vatican:

 "Because of a sermon by the General Superior, Bishop Fellay on the 2nd of February in Winona, there were several media outlets in Germany which premptively described the talks as "broken down"."

The chronicle  denies this:  "Bishop Fellay broached the issue not of the fundamental relation to Rome, rather of the question, as to how the "Doctrinal Preamble" should be evaluated."


An Answer to an Answer?

As a last event, the chronicle lists the meeting of Msgr Fellay with the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine and the Faith on the 16th of March.

At this even the Prefect explained in a written answer, that the offer of the Society is not sufficient to resolve the dogmatic problems.

On the morning -- of the 25th of March --  a further step will be announced.

"In Germany a word from the pulpit will be read to the faithful in relation to the talks with Rome."


Link to kreuz.net....

Link topiusbruderschaft.de...

SSPX: Some Details From the Two Hour Long Discussion

If the problem could be solved by a signature, no one would refuse to sign.

Candidates for Deaconal Ordination
for South American District
© Piusbruderschaft 

(kreuz.net, Vatican) The most recent letter to the Society of St. Pius X from the CDF renewed its request for the General Superior of the Society, Bishop Bernard Fellay, to sign the Dogmatic Preamble.

This was according to Andrea Tornielli at 'vaticaninsider.com'.

The signature of the Preamble is a precondition for the canonical reconciliation.

Tonrielli speculates that Msgr Fellay has been playing for time up until now without breaking the dialog with the Vatican off completely.

On the contrary, the Pope wants clear conditions.

On Friday Msgr Fellay spoke for two hours with the Prefect of the Congregation for Doctrine and the Faith, Cardinal William Levada, as well as the Secretary of the Commission of Ecclesia Dei, Prelate Guido Pozzo.

Msgr Fellay was accompanied by his chief assistant, Father Alain-Marc Nely.

The Church has thrown the Traditional Faith Overboard


The Society Bishop explained, says Tornielli, that the Society has no problem signing with the initial Professio fidei -- Profession of Faith .

Additionally, it recognizes principles represented in the Preamble.

The problem consists not in the principles, rather in their application.

The Church fails in fidelity to the Magisterium -- explained Msgr Fellay, according to Tornielli.

Recognition is in the Drawer


The Vaticanist reported still further that for the Society, in case they accept the Preamble, are ready to complete an offer with a Canonical Structure of an Institute.

It would allow the Society a status of complete independence from the Bishops, which protection is enjoyed by no other traditional group.

There are Effectively Two Different Religions

Tornielli suspects that the problem with reconicliation is not in the text of the Preamble but also as a result of disunity within the Society.

The majority, inclusive of the General Superior, want unity with Rome.  They recognize the primacy of the Papacy with its government as being central to the Faith.

A strong minority of the Society are against the reconciliation.   They call on Rome to finally convert.

Link to original...

Vatican Talks with SSPX: Recylcing Tornielli's False Report of Last Week

(Vatikan/Econe)Some people can't help themselves. The supplement Christ und Welt(ex Rheinischer Merkur)the weekly paper of Die Zeit reported in today's edition, that "according to the estimate" of the Italian Vaticanista Andrea Tornielli, the negotiations between the Society of St. Pius X and the Holy See have been a "failure". The Catholic news agency KNA has distributed the information further. Even so it is being assumed by countless worldwide Catholic media.

In fact, it is just the (false) message that Alessandro Speciale spread last week on the 3rd of February which appeared on the same day as Tornielli's report. Speciale stated that the Superior General of the SSPX, Bishop Bernard Fellay had declared the talks a failure. Nothing of the kind was done.

Instead, it was the same day that Speciale had already spread his message in the morning that a meeting between Pope Benedict and Cardinal Levada took place instead, the Prefect o fthe Congregation who led the negotiations with the SSPX. The them of the meeting were the discussions with Econe. The Pope himself discussed the current status with Cardinal Levada and also what the next steps of the Holy See will be. It is in fact the Vatican's turn to answer the SSPX.

A failure of the talks is not excluded, however, any more than there being an agreement between Rome and Econe. What Speciale and others more widely published, was targeted at disruption and torpedoing the talks, an attempt to influence from the outside, which makes the father of this wish easy to surmise. The report from the Christiches Welt and Tornielli's analysis corresponded to the 3 February 2012 (this time only in German). Since then nothing more in Italy has been published on the subject, not even in his own blog. The question of whether or not there has been an agreement or a failure of the talks between Rome and Econe is still open.

Die Zeit's editorial appears to appeal to thoughts which appeal to the failure of the talks, which have newly warmed themselves with the report of last week. That parts of the Catholic Church are interested in the failure of the discussions was known then. The dissemination of these premature negative reports serve to sketch a map, of whom is attaching themselves to this kind of wishful thinking. This is thoroughly decisive for observers of the Catholic Church. It is at the present time, nothing more and nothing less.

Link to katholisches...

SSPX's Response to Vatican, No Response

Bishop Fellay

Edit:  The response to Rome has just come in and it brings to mind an episode from the life of Caligula by Suetonius in his 12 Caesars.  The erratic Caligula hated people who disturbed his dramatic entertainments and sent one offending officer as a messenger to Ptolemy of Mauritania bearing the message, "do nothing at all, either good or evil, to the bearer of this message."

Man, that Vatican Insider continues to contemptuously refer to the Society of St. Pius X as "Lefebvrians" and even refuses to grace the name of Fellay with the title of Bishop.  

According to  Vatican Insider, the Vatican has received a response from the Society, but there is nothing, only a "documentation".  Tornielli seems to think that Bishop Fellay is taking more time to defer the decision, or ask for clarification and possible changes to the text proposed by the Holy See.

Tornielli has taken some time to dwell on alleged internal difficulties within the Society, but he hasn't taken any time to talk about the internal difficulties faced by the Church at large, what with the pornography scandal in Germany and the rebellious attitude of the German speaking clergy in general, who, despite all of their financial wealth, can't seem to figure out who they serve.  

Bishop Fellay's recent response notwithstanding, no one has addressed his request for understanding in light of the Church's massive decay.

 Link to Vatican Insider, here...

H/t: Messa in Latino...


Apparently, there is also speculation about some kind of coup, which Tornielli is suggesting going on within the SSPX by a discredited Belgian Sedevacantist site.

Pope Benedict May Have Something Better for SSPX: Bishop Williamson "Lashes" out at Jews

Edit: The Pope may have something even "better" in store for the Society in this round of deliberations over the Preamble, despite misgivings on the part of Bishop Fellay about the course of this.

Meanwhile, Bishop Williamson is in the Jewish press with his recent Eleison Comments, which are really non-controversial.

 

 

A report on the conference given by H.E. Bernard Fellay SSPX in Our Lady of Victories Church, Cubao, Quezon City, Metro Manila on October 16, 2011

I attended Pontifical Mass from the throne (two assistant deacons and all) in the SSPX church in Metro Manila on the morning of October 16. The Mass was offered by Bishop Fellay and he was assisted by the District Superiors for Asia and for France. The church was packed to overflowing thanks to the presence of delegates from the SSPX-guided Praesidia of the Legion of Mary from all over the Philippines. (This is not to say that the church is not full on ordinary Sundays.)

 

During his sermon for the Mass, Bishop Fellay focused mostly on the need to trust in God, and the fact that the Lord who performed the miracle described in the gospel for that Sunday (the forgiving of sins and healing of the man sick with palsy) is the same Lord who is in the tabernacle. He has lost none of His power, and therefore we must have recourse to Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament with complete trust. He also related the following story from Lourdes, which according to the bishop took place a few years back: there was this little girl who was very ill, and who had gone to Lourdes in the hope of being healed. She stood in line to be blessed with the Blessed Sacrament, as is the practice in that shrine. However, when the priest blessed her with the Blessed Sacrament, nothing happened to her. She then pointed to the Blessed Sacrament (which by then had been brought over to another person) and said, "I'll tell this to Your Mother!". At that instant, she was healed! The bishop did not neglect to speak about the need to pray the rosary and to have trusting recourse to the intercession of the Blessed Virgin. In the course of this he remarked that the crisis in the Church was so great that, humanly speaking, it can't be raised up, and only divine intervention can do so.

After the Pontifical Mass, the bishop gave an hour-long conference (open to the public) on the state of the relationship between the Vatican and the SSPX.

From Rorate Caeli...

Preamble for Reonciliation With SSPX Allows Critical Discussion of Vatican II

Edit:  It's time for the neo-Conservatives to start eating some crow.  Wait, you can actually criticize Vatican II and still be Catholic?  Wow.

After conferring the leadership of the Society of St. Pius X, it is likely this document will be signed as it will allow the SSPX to continue its measured and reasonable criticism of the Vatican Council Documents.

In the linked article below, Bishop Fellay describes a phone conversation he had with Cardinal Hoyos wherein the Cardinal admitted that +Fellay could have such reservations and level those criticisms while being Catholic at the same time.

Today, for the sake of objectivity, I must acknowledge that in the doctrinal preamble there is no clear-cut distinction between the inviolable dogmatic sphere and the pastoral sphere that is subject to discussion. The only thing that I can say, because it is part of the press release, is that this preamble contains “certain doctrinal principles and criteria for the interpretation of Catholic doctrine, which are necessary to ensure faithfulness to the Church’s Magisterium and to "sentire cum Ecclesia" [thinking with the Church]. At the same time, it leaves open to legitimate discussion the examination and theological explanation of individual expressions and formulations contained in the documents of Vatican Council II and of the later Magisterium.” There you have it; no more and no less.

Link to here...Dici

Rome Expects Certain Conditions For Reconciliation With SSPX

Edit: apparently there will be ground rules the SSPX will be expected to follow in its resistance to the principles of Vatican II. It's interesting to note, and worth repeating, that many allegedly Catholic Bishops in good standing with the Vatican don't actually follow many principles outlined in the Vatican documents themselves.

This should be interesting.

Also taking into account the concerns and the issues presented by the SSPX regarding the integrity of the Catholic faith considering the hermeneutic of rupture of the Second Vatican Council with respect to Tradition – mentioned by Pope Benedict XVI in his Address to the Roman Curia of December 22, 2005 – the CDF maintains that a fundamental basis of full reconciliation with the Apostolic See is the acceptance of the Doctrinal Preamble which was delivered during the course of today’s (Wed., September 14th, 2011) meeting. This preamble enunciates some of the doctrinal principles and criteria for the interpretation of Catholic doctrine necessary to guarantee fidelity to the Magisterium of the Church and sentire cum Ecclesia (thinking with [the mind of] the Church), while at the same time leaving the theological study and explanation of particular expressions and formulations present in the texts of the Second Vatican Council and of the Magisterium that followed it open to legitimate discussion.

In the course of the same meeting, some elements were proposed regarding a canonical solution for the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, which would follow the eventual and hoped-for reconciliation.

Link to The Vatican Today...

Le Figaro Says "Integristes" Are Reconciling with Rome

Edit: at least this anti-Catholic paper isn't as hostile as the usually dependable Tornielli. Integraliste is much more accurate and appealing than "Lefebrian".

Une réunion historique doit se tenir mercredi matin à Rome entre le Saint-Siège et Mgr Fellay, leader des lefebvristes, laquelle pourrait aboutir dans les semaines qui viennent à leur réintégration dans l'Église catholique.

Au Vatican, les rendez-vous les plus importants ne sont pas les plus spectaculaires. Mardi matin, dans les bureaux les plus discrets de la cité, ceux de la Congrégation pour la doctrine de la foi, va se tenir une rencontre absolument...

Link to Le Fig...

H/t AQ...

General Superior of the SSPX Called to Rome

Edit: the following has been translated from the Society Website of Germany and he requests prayers. This was previously reported by Mundabor.

The General Superior and his two assistants, Father Niklaus Pfluger and Father Alain-Marc Nely have been invited to a special meeting in Rome on 14. September 2011.

 This is according to Father Franz Schmidberger of Germany in the forward to his next newsletter.

Here it is:

"Exactly in this sense we ask you to raise your prayers to heaven for the 14th of September. On this day, on the Feast of the Holy Cross, Msgr Fellay, our honorable General Superior, has been ordered to an audience by Cardinal Levada, the Prefect of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, in regard to the outcome of the two year doctrinal talks between the Holy See and the Priestly Society."

It is noteworthy that not only the General Superior, but the General Counsel of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X has been ordered to Rome: The General Counsel consists of the General Superior and his assistants.

The Society has established preparations with the Talks with the Holy See under the direction of Bishop de Galarreta which has been left in a very good climate.

It is generally understood that this meeting will turn to the canonical situation of the Society.

Pope Benedict XVI has lifted the Decree of Excommunication of 1988 on 21. January 2009. (Dekret nachlesen) Since then the Society is no longer "excommunicated", therefore the question of the canonical status is left unanswered all along.

Opponents of the Society of St. Pius X., above all the German Episcopate, have used this as a pretext in the recent past, to deny any collaboration with the Society. Recent examples are the First home Mass of Father Jeindle in the Diocese of Vienna as well as the national Pilgrimage to Altötting in July of this year.

All Catholics, who receive the Sacraments in the churches and chapels of the Society of St. Pius X in Germany, are requested to offer their prayers for this meeting on the Feast of the Holy Cross.

Link to the German District Website...

Bishop Fellay of SSPX Has Mixed Reactions about Clarification: Sees no Reconcilation Short Term

Editor: The future's uncertain and the end is always near.

Clarity is not the Charism of the Conciliar Church

The General Superior of the Society of Pius X has made it clear that a reconciliation with the Vatican is not foreseeable "in the short term".

(kreuz.net, Stuttgart)  The instruction 'Universae Ecclesiae' has affirmed the importance of the Old Mass for the whole Church.

Bishop Bernard Fellay -- the General Superior of the Society of St. Pius X -- said this in a German video interview with the website 'pius.info'.

This occured on Tuesday at during a visit by Msgr Fellay in Stuttgart.

The Bishop was leased that Bishops and Priests will be permited to offer the Old Rite.

At the same time Msgr Fellay sees shadows in the Instruction.

Legitimacy of the New Mass

The Bishop especially criticized number 19 of the Instruction.

It reads: "The faithful who ask for the celebration of the forma extraordinaria must not in any way support or belong to groups which show themselves to be against the validity or legitimacy of the Holy Mass or the Sacraments celebrated in the forma ordinaria or against the Roman Pontiff as Supreme Pastor of the Universal Church."

The General Superior took the entire paragraph to mean that the legitimacy of the New Mass may not be doubted.

Actually, it's a fact "that probably ninety percent of those, who are attending the Old Mass see."

Because: Why should one attend the Old Mass if one is happy with the New -- asked the Prelate.

With this point, the Society is "surely not pleased".

Careful Criticisms

Additionally, Msgr Fellay criticized number 31 of the Instruction. There, the Diocesan Bishops are strenuously forbidden to offer Priestly ordinations in the Old Rite.

The section from 31 reads: 31. "Only in Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life which are under the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, and in those which use the liturgical books of the forma extraordinaria, is the use of the Pontificale Romanum of 1962 for the conferral of minor and major orders permitted."

Bishop Fellay had hoped for the same openness to ordination as with the Mass.

As a whole he greets the new Instruction "with mixed feelings".

As far as that goes, he hopes that the good will grow and that the Old Mass will be more and more celebrated.

No Reconciliation in the Short Term

Of the Conferences with the Vatican, Msgr Fellay said that he remains committed to them.

If it will produce a common clarification or not, only the future can tell.

The Bishop isn't expecting too much.

In the short term he does not see a reconciliation. The Society should not expect that Rome will suddenly say: "I was wrong".

Long term Msgr Fellay hopes for certain emendations -- especially of the Pastoral Council:

"It is very, very difficult, to say anything clear about the results of the Discussions."

Link to original...here.

Bishop Fellay is in the USA

Superior General's Visit

PLATTE CITY, MO
4-13-2011

The SSPX’s Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay, visited the United States of America District Headquarters at the beginning of this week. Besides the business meetings, he was pleased to visit the construction of the new building (see the March Regina Coeli Report), and meet with the priests and the staff of both the District Office and Angelus Press.

On Tuesday morning, he celebrated a Pontifical Low Mass in the chapel of the Regina Coeli House, the District Office’s title and patroness. Later in the day, priests from St. Vincent de Paul Priory (Kansas City, MO) and of St. Mary's, KS were able to assist at the lunch offered in his honor.

Link to US District original...

Cardinal Ranjith is Talking about the "Elimination" of the New Mass

In Old Liberal Vienna, a Pius-Priest may not enter any ecclesiastical buildings. Thirty Diocesan Priests from Catholic Italy have spoken against this.

(kreuz, Paris) Dated, 13. January 2011: A very large part of the post-Conciliar love-Church "hates" the Society of Pius X.  The Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X., Msgr Bernard Fellay, said this the Sunday before last in Paris.

He explained that in the current discussions with Rome, discretion is very important.

The Society will go very intelligently with the negotiations.  They must make no false concessions.

The Bishop is pleased that Rome is generally prepared to discuss the non-dogmatic Pastoral Council.

Longing for the Catholic Teaching

In the lecture he mentioned that he was able to speak with almost thirty Italian Diocesan priests in the Diocese of Albano near Rome.

He is said to have asked the priests what they expect from the SSPX and figured they would say "the Mass".

Actually, the priests wanted "the Doctrine" from the Society.

Msgr Fellay is convinced that priests  who return to the Immemorial Mass of All Ages, will also come back to the Catholic doctrine -- but "from far away".

For they knew despite years of academic study nothing of God.

The "New Mass" has Outlived Itself

In Rome Bishop Fellay also met "very good people" -- priests, even Bishops and apparently Cardinals.

The Bishop named none.

Msgr Fellay cited however a word from Cardinal Malcom Ranjith of Sri Lanka.  He said to him: "one can not eliminate the New Mass with one stroke."

It takes more levels and will require twenty years, a whole generation.

As a step in the direction of improvement Bishop Fellay indicated the Motu Proprio, 'Summorum Pontificum'.

Not all is good with that, already: "But, a beginning has been made."


From kreuz.net....

Bishop Fellay's First Comments on Assisi III

Remarks on the Feast of the Epiphany during a sermon given at St. Nicolas du Chardonnet on the Solemnity of the Epiphany, January 9, 2011 After explaining the arrival of the Three Magi who traveled from the farthest ends of the pagan world to adore Our Lord Jesus Christ, Bishop Fellay contrasts this example of the Faith of the Magi with the unbelief of Herod and of the priests and the announcement of the World Day of Prayer for Peace in Assisi in October 2011.

In theory they know, in theory they believe. But in reality, do they believe? Do they really believe that Our Lord is God? Do they really believe that peace among men, among nations, is in His hand? Do they really believe in all the immediate, direct consequences of His divinity? …Are they all going, like the Magi, the Three Kings, to adore the true God and to look to Him for that peace and to ask Him for it? Are they going to the King of Peace: Rex Pacificus? Oh, how history repeats itself, alas! Link to SSPX site, here.

Bishop Fellay Predicts Reunion Soon

This over at Rorate Caeli, here.

The goal of your Fraternity is still to integrate the Catholic Church?

Yes, we have always maintained that we do not wish to go our own way. We maintain that we are Catholic and that we remain so. We wish that Rome will recognize us as true Bishops. Otherwise, the word schismatic is not used any longer regarding us. Now, if we are not schismatics, nor heretics, then we are truly Catholic. Otherwise, the Pope says that there is solely a problem of a canonical nature. An act of Rome suffices to state that it's over and that we reenter the Church. This will happen [Ça viendra.]. I am very optimistic.

[Source: Le Forum Catholique; tip: Le Salon Beige]

"The Smallest of Our Deeds Engender Completely Disproportionate Reactions": Bishop Fellay on Rome and Society

The General Superior of the SSPX: "It is still seemingly difficult to talk about the relations of the Society with Rome."

Bishop Fellay Celebrates the Office of the German District 

Pilgrimage to Fulda

(kreuz.net) Forty years ago --on 1. November 1970-- the Society of Pius X was errected by the former Bishop of Freiburg, Genf und Lausanne, François Charrière († 1976).

 With that the General Superior of the Society of Pius X, Bishop Bernard Fellay, at the end of a letter to friends and benefactors.

"Who would have ever suspected that we would have covered such a distance as we have?" -- he began.

Conflict and Tests are Not Bad

 Msgr Fellay recalled the words of Cardinal Silvio Oddi  († 2001).  This one explained the foundation for the situation of the Society of Pius X then, that those founders, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre († 1991) had done with "too great a love for the Church".

The General Superior explained that the Faithful of the Society carry the principles, which are dearest to the Church, deep in their hearts:

"They hesitate to contradict, to rebel, the revolution and never the less they appear, from the beginning to end, as rebels".

The Society will, "Exactly because of our obedience" be punished, "especially because of our dependence on the truth, which was always defended by the Church and because of our resistance to the errors, for which we will be condemned."

The General Superior continued: "The smallest of our deeds engender completely disproportionate reactions".

And: "could one conceive of greater preparations, if it were required, to protect himself from the Devil?"

At the same time the Bishop was joyful that his Society could tkae part in the sufferings of Christ.

He recalled then, that the Church on earth is a militant Church.

For all times the spiritual masters saw the test as a good sign -- as well as a sign of divine approval.

At that time you didn't belong to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre

Msgr Fellay suggested in his letter that the past forty years described by Archbishop Lefebvre have been affirmed.

What he said then, is also valid for today: "if one followed his instructions, then the Church would surely recover."

Actually: "If one sees what happens in the Church -- even when here and there there are small shafts of light --- one must hold fast that the ship has progressed on its entire course, which has gone with the Second Vatican Council -- given, being slowed by Benedict XVI."

Msgr Fellay compares the ecclesiastical decline with a "free fall,  which has been slowed by a parachute."


The Cult of Man from the Council Bears no Fruit

Msgr Fellay recalled the teaching of the Social Reign of Christ, which lay especially close to the heart of Archbishop Fellay.

The civil society must be interpenetrated with the Christian rights, with which the soul can most easily find eternal blessedness.

The General Superior regreted that the Conciliar Church had confused the Kingdom of God with a cult of man.

He insisted that the successes of the last years show a certain regression: "It is till now still easy, but for all that very true."

No one doubts that the Society could deliver an important lecture:

"But it is still seemingly difficult,  to give something concrete in answer to questions about relations of the Society with Rome"


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Here's the Superior's Letter in English: here.

Bishop Williamson Complies with Bishop Fellay's Order

From DICI:

The Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay, has learnt by the press of Bishop Richard Williamson’s decision, just ten days before his trial, to dismiss the lawyer charged with his defense, in favor of a lawyer who is openly affiliated to the so-called neo-Nazi movement in Germany, and to other such groups.

Bishop Fellay has given Bishop Williamson a formal order to go back on this decision and to not allow himself to become an instrument of political theses that are completely foreign to his mission as a Catholic bishop serving the Society of Saint Pius X.

Disobedience to this order would result in Bishop Williamson being expelled from the Society of Saint Pius X.

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Bishop Fellay Sees Prophesies: Cardinal Against Cardinal

All Against All -- That is the Common-Theology of the Second Vatican Council

The General Superior of the Society of Pius X: "We find ourselves in a time, which was unforseen, that Cardinal will stand against Cardinal and Bishop against Bishop."

[kreuz.net] The crisis in the Church is like a wandering through the desert.

Bishop Fellay, the General Superior of the Society of Pius X said this in an interview with the periodical "Noucelles de Chrétienté"

Really in contrast to the wandering of the Israelites in the desert is that Mana is very difficult to find.

The Bishop see really "encouraging signals" from Rome. To be sure they are mixed along with many problems. It is comparable to "a blade of grass in the desert."

Msgr Fellay explained that the Society is only of negligible size: "But we represent living Tradition."

Even a high-ranking Prelate in Rome considers the good fruits of the Society of Pius X as a work of the Holy Ghost -- says Msgr Fellay.

This is the reason, why the Roman authorities have take notice of the Society: "In the midst of the desert, fresh fruit has ripened."

Even in the Vatican Minds Bump into Each Other

The Bishop explained that the Old Mass expresses the Catholic mind, just as the New Mass expresses the Mind of the Second Vatican Council.

Both Rites embody two mental dispositions which do not suit one another.

The question if the tear in the Church also runs through Rome, met with agreement from Msgr Fellay:

"We find ourselves in times, which were foretold, that Cardinal will strive against Cardinal and Bishop against Bishop."

This conflict will be carried out discretely. It is withdrawn from the sight of the faithful.

Actually in the last time the conflict will become open and public. As an example Bishop Fellay mentioned the "baseless attack" of Cardinal Christoph Schönborn of Vienna against the Cardinal Emeritus Angelo Sodano.

"It is no secret that the opposing tendencies collide with each other even in Rome."

Bishop Fellay has concrete facts, but he does not believe, that their publication will help the faithful.


The Council Allows Various Interpretations

Concerning Ecumenism Msgr Fellay remembered then that the Church regarded other Christian Confessions when Pius XII. (+1958) had inclusively condemned them as "false religions".

He criticized even the manner of interpreting the Second Vatican Council after a so-called Hermenutic of Continuity.

Thus one introduces a "new Council".

Such a centrist Council will be defined by the Modernist as as traditional and by the Society as not traditional enough.

Bishop Fellay infers from this the divergence of interpretations of which there are no lack in the Council documents themselves.


Rebuilding Will be Difficult

Discussing the Church crisis, he explained, that a quick solution will only be accomplished by God and a miracle: "Usually, God leads His Church otherwise -- bu cooperating with his creatures with holiness."

The Bishop described the way to the rebuilding of the Church as, "long, the work immeasurable.":

"If the politics of the naming of Bishops changes, then we could hope."

Msgr Fellay also views the necessity of a thoroughgoing reform of the Teaching Office of the Papal Universities and Priestly formation.

For these aims are needed a long breath. In the moment these are still "dreams": "Everything depends in the first line on the Pope."

Bishop Fellay is posoitive that the Church apparently recognizes the crisis in the Church more clearly.

The Society of St Pius X recognizes for this reason that the Church possesses until today only one valid past.

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