Sunday, March 27, 2011

Father Mike Tegeder is Paddling into Dangerous Pastoral Waters

Stolen From Father T's FB

Father Mike Tegeder is paddling into dangerous pastoral waters on behalf of liberal ideology -- the popular, freeze-dried, liberal, Alzheimer's theologian is crossing the line when it comes to the new rules about unlettered old women lecturing the laity. He's going for broke. Pulled out all the stops.  He is being praised by the liberal media and chastised by the local ordinary for sitting back and letting the laity do all the work, "preaching" in this case. Of course he's not the worst priest in the Archdiocese, is he? He's been brought to us out of the theological backwoods of Collegeville, a runoff byproduct, as it were, where you can watch avant garde plays minimizing the moral severity of pederasty. But who needs the priesthood anyway, someone to moralize to us about right and wrong? We're being Church now. [Isn't that creepy?]

Let us sing Mike's Newchurch into being.

Liberal reporters love to harp on "the priest shortage". They imagine it's been caused by the demands placed on the priest by an unyielding, dogmatic male-centered power structure which is anti-woman and dehumanizing. Freeze dried women and their defeated husbands in tow were "vital" in undermining this understanding as they left behind their children for careers and other forms of "fulfillment" as they tended to move out to the suburbs, practice birth control and send their children to liberal Colleges where they would leave behind the Catholic Faith.

Father Mike Tegeder has created a "ministry" for his gals where they can "preach" like Gloria Steinem on various abstruse subjects...

Archbishop Nienstedt, for his part, has been very adamant about this suburban pastor following the rules. It's been a wait-and-see approach. When Father "Mike" decided to have a Zen garden where people's cremation urns were placed, the Archdiocese acted and Father "Mike" Tegeder dodged a bullet and presented papers indicating that his Zen cemetery garden is canonically and civilly legal.

The article below talks about an alleged "priest shortage". Actually, these kinds of illicit pastoral initiatives, including altar girls and women lectors, are surefire vocations killers. It's why comparatively few men go to Mass in the first place. Take a look around you next time you go to Mass. You'll see a few young women, small families with a few children and a bunch of freezedried, Alzheimer's theologians who are busy running the parish, into the ground, behind the scenes.

Young women who are looking for a good husband at church probably aren't going to find him. He's fast asleep at home on Sunday morning, probably because Father "Mike" told him that the institutional isn't all there is. Probably because some priests, possibly Father "Mike", told him that it doesn't matter what religion you belong to. Not much of an incentive, and why get married anyway? That involves rules, don't it? Father "Mike" don't follow the rules. He even insults his boss and gets away with it. I think I'll stay in bed on Sunday to recover from last night.

[CBS Minnesota] So why did it take the archdiocese four years to begin enforcing the 2004 Vatican policy change?

Tegeder said he believes the new archbishop had a hand in ending lay preaching. Archdiocese spokesman McGrath said Flynn's letter had nothing to do with Nienstedt, whose adherence to orthodox church doctrine has engendered fierce criticism from Tegeder and many Catholic lay people.

"We're a 2,000-year-old institution and sometimes things move kind of slowly," McGrath said. "I don't know what the pattern was in other archdioceses and dioceses. It just takes a while sometimes to implement changes."

Related Articles:

Minnesota Pastor Challenges Archbishop's DVD

Where Heresy and Dissent Abound [Father Mike Tells the Guys upstairs off]


Matt said...

On a positive note, at least I don't feel so alone down here in the Diocese of Winona anymore - you have to deal with this type of .....well.....up there. Why is it that Catholics who are trying to live the faith in a simple, traditional manner are cut off and heretics, schismatics, and rebels continue on? God save us.

Tancred said...

You've got bush league cultural Marxism down there.

Unknown said...

Good one. I missed that CBS MN story.

Anonymous said...

How un "Christ like" you speak. Your very words are the antithesis of a Christ centered person.
The others that you are speaking/slamming about are in fact the ones really and truly trying to live the Christ centered life. You resort to name calling...
You remind me of someone in Germany from 70 years ago. Not sure how you are able to look at yourself in the mirror? I will pray for you my friend. May God's love find a way into your heart...

Anonymous said...

I suggest you seek some help for your tics. Your use of "freezedried" and "Alzheimer theologian" is just plain wierd. Not to mention your blatant misogynist perspective. By the way, the priest shortage is very real and has absolutely nothing to do with girl alter servers or women participating in the mass. How you came to that conclusion is a true mystery, I suppose like many church teachings. Usually it's a bit more convincing if you put at least a little logic and rational, connected thought behind an argument. Just a suggestion.

Tancred said...

I'm not sure how you draw a connection between using creative neologisms and "tics".

There is no priest crisis in Diocese which don't clutter the altar with elderly feminists and their female grandchildren. The Diocese of Denton, for example, or Campos, Brazil for anther. On a smaller scale, you have parishes like St. Agnes in St. Paul, Minnesota, which also don't have any problems with new vocations.

A little grasp of the facts might be helpful to whatever it is you're trying to say.

It's certainly more useful than starting your missives with insults.

Anonymous said...

No priest shortage? The Diocese of St. Paul, Mn recently closed numerous smaller churches due to lack of funding and lack of priests. This also recently took place in Duluth as well as other places in Minnesota and across the country. Grasp of the facts? I think the facts are quite apparent to those who refuse to deny reality. You may have some theory about how to get more priests, but, the fact is, there is a priest shortage!

Tancred said...

The so-called priest shortage is a manufactured crisis which is often uncritically repeated in the media in an attempt to justify more progressive reforms in the Church, as if that has done anything to assist Lutherans, Anglicans or Catholic parishes which are preoccupied with these progressive notions and practice them.

You haven't been keeping up with the news lately. Saint Paul and St. John Vianney seminaries are filled with new seminarians, and the vocations don't tend to come from parishes where women, against Apostolic mandate, Holy Scripture and Tradition, have a leading role.

I think you need to be more concerned about how the world is changing under your very own feet.

Anonymous said...

As a former seminarian of St. John Vianney, I am well aware of the numbers. What you are not saying, or do not know, is that those seminaries are filled with men from all over the midwest - not just Minnesota. If it were just Minnesotans there would be far fewer. Your notions about the media appear to be conspiracy theory since I have priest friends who regularly talk about the priest shortage - and these are conservative priests. There's no point in denying reality my friend. It does not solve real problems. And yes, the world is changing under my feet. It always has, and always will. It's called life.

Tancred said...

It's irrelevant whether or not they are from all over the Midwest or where they're from, what's relevant is their back ground. Most of the new seminarians aren't coming from parishes that have laicized themselves out of the Catholic Church.

Tancred said...

You also conveniently ignored the actual data I supplied. There's no priest shortage in parishes that are faithful to the authentic teachings of the Church.

And most of those conservative priests you allege you're talking to will also admit that the priest shortage is a manufactured crisis.

Cardinal Burke for example, mentions this all the time, among many others.

Perhaps you have some kind of unseen interest in perpetuating this artificial situation?

Anonymous said...

asserted that there's no priest shortage in parishes that are faithful to authentic teachings of the church. This is not data my friend, it is an assertion without data (numbers). And perhaps you have some kind of unseen interest in perpetuating an illusion that there is no priest shortage. The truth you are so certain of is right before you, but you don't want to see it. There is a priest shortage, whether it is convenient or not to your wishes.

Tancred said...

I'm not your friend, sir, and the data is plentiful.

It's certainly a lot more valid than the baseless slander that this blog is based on "conspiracy theories."

Maybe it's a mental tick or some other pathology that prevents you from seeing the changing tides.

Where are the vocations coming from? Certainly not the liberal parishes of Minneapolis, or Collegeville.

St. Agnes has alone provided the seminary with 10% of its seminarians year in an year out for a very long time.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure what changing tides you're referring to, but what is changing is Christian views on gay people. Within our lifetime, people will look back and wonder how we could be so discriminating and prejudiced against gay couples - just like looking back on slavery. You don't need to be a prophet to see this, only rational and caring. Fr. Tegeder was right to take on wayward, dictatorial church leaders, just as good people have for centuries challenged church authority when those in charge lose a sense of the holy spirit. And someday, all the gay people in the world will be joining you and I at the Lord's table in heaven. Except the gays, prostitutes, poor, marginalized, and powerless will be sitting at the highest dining table, next to Jesus. And you and I, who knows. Maybe we'll be seated at a lesser table, next to the scribes and pharisees who thought they knew everything and so foolishly judged all the so called sinners around them. You ever wonder if that's your role right now - a scribe or pharisee who thinks he's the righteous one, and really, as Jesus showed, you know nothing. Maybe God is even working through both of us in this blog, trying to teach us something about our ignorance. After all, you never really know who you're communicating with on the other side - anything about their life, their story. Anyway, I'm sorry about any comments I made that might have been offensive to you. God bless you on your journey and continued search for truth.

Tancred said...

Now you've opened up an entirely new argument.

You'd have to be pretty insensitive to real Christian charity and honesty to support Tegeder.

If he wants a different kind of church his views are well represented in the ELCA or other dying leftist protestant sects like the Episcopalians.

God can't possibly work through someone who rejects His Church's teachings.

Anonymous said...

So you're limiting how the God of the universe can work?

Anonymous said...

You can call yourselves a lot of things, but at least intellectual honesty should compel you to at least refrain from calling yourselves Catholics.

David said...

Wow mr anonymous does the fact that "God is never changing" mean anything to you? Just because an ever growing population of fake catholics are coming to the conclusion that gay marriage is acceptable doesnt mean that God Himself is ever evolving. The same Soddom and Gamorrah mentality that somehow gets passed off as divine revelation. One thing for certain is the truth of where the solid vocations originate from. Revelations speaks to the things that we are encountering in todays upside down world. I might suggest a few visits to the Blessed Sacrament in silence and taking advantage of the many sacraments and gifts the church offers through the rosary, reconciliation, and receiving Jesus in the Eucharist if you have found yourself so seperated from His Church. Other then that I can assure you of the prayers of us faithful for your safe return.