Showing posts with label Cramner Table. Show all posts
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Sunday, September 23, 2012

Karaganda Cathedral: Marred by Cramner Table

Edit: things are ok as long as people in upper management stay away.  Whose idea was it to send Cardinal Sodano, anyway?

The Reform of the Reform Didn't Happen

Cardinal Sodano Consecrates Wrong Altar
The joy was of short duration.  Photos show that the Old Liberal Ex-Secretary of State Angelo Cardinal Sodano consecrated a liturgical ironing board at the blessing of the Cathedral of Karaganda.

(  Photographs which were published at the website of the Archdiocese of Moscow have brought this to light.

In the new Cathedral of Karaganda there is a high altar and a moveable super table, which has been placed on a carpet.

The summit of irony:  On the 9th of September at the blessing of the Cathedral it wasn't the high altar, but the dinner table that was consecrated.

The high altar served as a credence table during the ceremony.

The original project of the Auxiliary Bishop was sidelined

The 500,000 population city ofo Karaganda lays in the heart of Kazakhstan.

The new Cathedral was constructed from 2004 to 2012.  The well known Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider as the former Auxiliary of Karaganda took a leading  part in the construction.

The Auxiliary Bishop was in any case reassigned to the 749,000 population city of Astana, the capital of Kazakhstan in February 2011.

He is a lone crusader for reform of the secularized Catholic liturgy.

For that reason he had foreseen only the high altar in the original planning of the Church.  The removal of the Auxiliary Bishop probably altered the plans in the short term.

Great Astonishment

On the website '' the reader 'Peter' rang his hands with an explanatioon why in the new construction of the choir there were two altars one after the other.

Reader 'Marko Ivančičević sees "liturgical ignorance" at work.

One is simply oriented to a Church mutilated by the Pastoral Council, where the high altar has become enclosed by a liturgy block.

Link to original.. with more photos.

Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Berlin's Archbishop Understands Car Burners' Pain

"These acts are a cry for help: When people burn altar-tables, then it's a protest and an expression of their hopelessness.'
( Besides the so-called Neonazis or a Traditionalist, you can be anything in Nazi-mad Germany.

Even car burners.

In an interview with the "Swabian Times" for the 3rd of September, Archbishop Rainer Woelki of Berlin found sympathetic words even for these last mentioned. Their acts are "a cry for help", answered the all-understanding one to the question, if whether the waves of leftist car burning in Berlin bode a new kind of terrorism. He continued: "when people burn cars, it is a protest and even an expression of their helplessness."  

So much understanding for the non-believing

  The Archbishop says he has developed, after only a week, a "deep understanding for the spiritual life of the overburdened, unbelieving people of the city of Berlin". He invites the motorists of the city, to consider the Bishops' words:  

"We should go and ask ourselves sincerely in our hearts, if we were not overly quick in our harsh judgment of those hopless people, who cried out to us for help with their bbq lighters. How could we assume, they are simple criminals?

Let us ask the Lord for forgiveness!“

It was even a nice Protest

Archbishop Woelki's may not sit well with many of Berlin's motorists. The faithful Catholics of Berlin, however, are deeply grateful for his words. Because in the same sense that Msgr Woelki has certain understanding for this even, he would understand how those horrible altar-tables in Berlin churches could be ignited.

That would be a wonderful sight in the light of the coming Papal visit, to express "hopelessness", which burdens the modern Liturgy in Germany.

Every burned up altar-table would be a real cry for help for the faithful people, who can't go into the Church any more, to have to endure the self-satisfied Conciliar comic, who has planted himself in the place of the Holy of Hollies. [Many NO spaces have a "Presider's Chair" where the Eucharistic Lord should be.]

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