Monday, June 30, 2014
Dozens of French Clergy Say: I Have Already "Married" Divorced and Homosexuals
(Rome) 75 French priests and deacons say they are prepare to ecclesiastically marry divorced. No, even aberrosexual pairs. In the clergy there are liturgical trapeze artists. They purport they are entitled to Christ, the Church and the Sacraments, finally even human happiness itself. "Behind this hide the same methods, which are applied to hand communion," says Riposte Catholique. Will Pope Francis react as Paul VI?
Whoever still didn't know it, knows it now: dozens of Catholic priests are outspokenly saying they have already "married" divorced and homosexuals.
This was the shocking assertion of the
Conférence catholique des baptisé-e-s francophones (Catholic Conference of French Speaking Baptized Men and Women). The assertions were clear. 75 priests and deacons maintain, they are breaking Church law and giving the Sacrament of matrimony according to their own discretion. The disobedient priest and deacons are getting a head start with a view to the Bishops' Synod on the Family in October. They clearly have an expectation that their "abuse of the Sacraments" (Corrispondenza Romana) will be officially imposed and raised to the level of normalcy . In this manner, they are attempting to put pressure on the Bishops' Synod. One of the many progressive and heretical attempts to extort the current ecclesiastical leadership.
Invalid Nuptials in Churches
The 75 French deacons and priests are celebrating "weddings" between two people, of which one or both are objectively barred a Church wedding, because they were married in the Church,
even though they were civilly divorced. Civil marriages do not involve the Church. Ecclesiastical marriage, thus a Sacrament, is valid for life. A divorce is not possible. An ecclesiastical annulment can only determine, if an ecclesiastical marriage was validly consecrated and if there were no objective impediments at the time of marriage. In this case the marriage can be declared invalid. It had never existed.
Similarly invalid are "marriages" of people divorced in the Church, and likewise if aberrosexuals It is considered merely as a mockup of a Church act without any validity. That raised the question why these are generally being addressed at all. Then there is also the more pressing fraud deacons and priests engage upon, when they fool such people with marriage. On disciplinarian questions there is another question, as to how much guilt they bear in which they are engaged in such blasphemous mockeries of the sacraments. In stead of an advantage, such a farce of marriage does serious spiritual damage to those participating in it. Not least is the damage to the Church's image and the confusion such acts, n
Which go unchecked, cause among the faithful, those of other confessions and non-Christians.
Just as the sacramental marriage is indissoluble, every "marriage" of persons who are objectively hindered, and in such an impediment, as it is known to be a concrete case is null and void from the very start. Canon law leaves not the slightest doubt on this case: "The essential properties of marriage are unity and indissolubility; in christian marriage they acquire a distinctive firmness by reason of the sacrament."(Canon 1056)
For Some Clergy No Rules Are Valid
– How is it With Reality?
Actually for some priests and deacons there are no rules that seem to be valid. Because ultimately, the sacrament have no validity? The shocking suspicion, that they themselves have fallen from the faith, won't be hard to discount. More than 60 percent of priests have reported that in contentious situations, or in those where there are clearly objective impediments to marriage, neither appeal to the competent pastor, nor bishop. They "celebrate" much more for customer inquiries, as requested like service persons, and they're done. The next request. The word "celebrate" is flexible anyway. One "celebrates" a party. That's what it's all about. To celebrate a party is fun. Every opportunity is good for that, even in the Church, even if for "heterodox" reasons, like the instrumentality toward the Bishops' Synod to have the wishes of the baptized addressed, to put the sacraments of the Church in question, which can not be applied in the Church, nor binding.
Slight of Hand: "Blessing" Instead of Sacrament
The "Liturgical Trapeze Artists", says Corrispondenza Romana, are not embarrassed. They are trying to employ euphemisms to their abuse, so that their "celebrations" are "only" simple blessings in the Church, but not a Sacrament. For that priests and deacons make excuses for the "Farce", which is just a game. There isn't a sensible doubt: what these disobedient priests and deacons mercilessly injure, that they would also if there was an opportunity, even mercilessly abolish and alter. Which in turn raises the question of their personal faith.
Through the slight of hand of a supposed "blessing", which is only a simulated ceremony that looks like a wedding, the disobedient priest and deacons assume completely for themselves the pretension, of being completely within the bounds if Church law and not to have crossed any ecclesiastical limits. Dialectics make much possible. The question of intellectual honesty is not considered. And not only that. macht viel möglich, sehr viel.
They Haven't Read Familiaris Consortio
In Familiaris Consortio Pope John Paul II wrote to the remarried and divorced:
"However, the Church reaffirms her practice, which is based upon Sacred Scripture, of not admitting to Eucharistic Communion divorced persons who have remarried. They are unable to be admitted thereto from the fact that their state and condition of life objectively contradict that union of love between Christ and the Church which is signified and effected by the Eucharist. Besides this, there is another special pastoral reason: if these people were admitted to the Eucharist, the faithful would be led into error and confusion regarding the Church's teaching about the indissolubility of marriage.
And addressing the entire question still more clearly:
"Similarly, the respect due to the sacrament of Matrimony, to the couples themselves and their families, and also to the community of the faithful, forbids any pastor, for whatever reason or pretext even of a pastoral nature, to perform ceremonies of any kind for divorced people who remarry. Such ceremonies would give the impression of the celebration of a new sacramentally valid marriage, and would thus lead people into error concerning the indissolubility of a validly contracted marriage."
"Arrogant and Sacrilegious Audacity"
Seven of the 75 polled disobedient asserted that they had also already "blessed" aberrosexual couples. 39 respondents admitted that they are prepared, if the opportunity presents itself. "The arrogant and sacrilegious audacity of these disobedient priests and deacons requires a clear and immediate answer from competent Church authority," so says Corrispondenza Romana.
The situation is, however, not that as it is, as when they would be attending their competent positions. The Catholic French daily, La Croix, owned by the Bishops' Conference, limited it's report to the laconic observation that the "question of 'second marriage' which is one of the sensible questions, which will be addressed by the Bishops' Sunod from the 5-19th of October in Rome.
Same Methods Accompanied the Introduction of Hand Communion
According to Riposte Catholique, there is an intended strategy behind this, to influence the Bishops' Synod according to the motto: since some are already doing it at present it would be better to make it a rule. That is, says Riposte Catholique, exactly the method that introduced hand Communion. In order to hinder Paul VI from strengthening hand Communion, the "Rhenish Alliance" intervened with the statement that such a step would do more damage to the Church than good, because this praxis is already in general use in many parishes and tacitly accepted. Paul VI. "The sorry results of this decision, to interpret it as harmless, is well known. And how will Pope Francis act?," asks Corrispondenza, leaving the question hanging in the air.
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Let's hope this is no "surprise" to anyone.
I suppose these heretical priests continue 'in good standing'?
This is the endgame of the entire Vatican II revolt against Christ and His Church and all the true Vicars before the Vatican II apostates took over the Chair
This will be the sort of 'surprise' that everyone is supposed to ignore because, after all, there's nothin' to see here pew-people - the sun is in the sky, the grass is growing, and the bishops of rome are leading souls to perdition. All is right with the church and the world and church of the world.
I wonder if any of them would go the next logical step and faux marry the man who is "in love" with his computer since the porn they share is more satisfying than any illicit sex he ever had with a woman? Or the woman who wants to marry her son? Maybe that guy who sued to be able to faux marry his horse should contact them too.
Poor, delusional, sick, sick, SICK people. All of them! I hope the Lord will accept their plea of insanity at their final judgment. It will be their only hope.
Given one of the Synod outcomes is to "redefine" Natural Law like they have "redefined" every other aspect of Church Tradition and Sacred Doctrine, these prideful imposters who pretend to be the True Catholic Church Hierarchy (and they know they are pretenders!) they, once again, will sell Luciferian doctrine to the people in the NAME OF CATHOLICISM. They do not protect the Catholic Church, on the contrary, they sully Her name through ecumenism, naturalism, false sacraments and Apostasy. Refer to Canon Law (1917) 188.4 - they and those who support them are "ipso facto" outside of the Catholic Church.
They can "redefine" to their hearts content but the fact remains, Divine Law sits above all law and although most are deceived by their Satanic plan, many of us are most certainly not. May God have mercy on them, their followers and the rest of us who profess the True Catholic Faith against which the gates of Hell shall never prevail!
P.S. For the purpose of this reply, the definition of "redefine" is: to attempt to change that which cannot be changed.
Seems people today do not want the portion and state of life chosen for them by the good and loving Creator. Some women wan to be men and some men want to be women. Some want to be both...or "other". "Other"! Now that one just cracks my @ss up!!
Guys, it's well and truly over.
I've been mentioning a long time now in my comments about the 'priestly blessings' priests give those living outside the remit of Church Law at Communion time. Of course, they do it to be merciful, include them, we're all sinners etc etc. All they're doing is watering down doctrine and example to the lay faithful.
What with transgenders and gays, lesbians having their 'children' baptised in a Buenos Aires Cathedral* (even if they won't bring their kids up in the faith...!), I truly think the notion of the 'gay lobby' in the Church is over. That is passé now. I think a new era has been ushered into the Church, one of smut and dirt. A 'smut and dirt lobby'.
(*One would think the Cathedral would need to be re-consecrated after that. Honestly, I don't know any more.)
Pope John Paul the clown's new evangelization goes forward!
Oh yes, they will be in good standing. It's only if you celebrate the Tridentine Mass and uphold Catholic teaching that you are no longer in good standing
"P.S. For the purpose of this reply, the definition of "redefine" is: to attempt to change that which cannot be changed."
Ya mean like 'marriage' and 'gender'? We are living in an insane asylum.
That's not OK what you said Anonymous. Pope John Paul did some strange ecumenical things but on Catholic life ethics he was very clear...
I agree with Damask Rose ...something epochal is occurring - our civilisation has completely fallen now that Italy has fallen for the perverted anti-family laws ...we are finished as a civilisation ...it's a matter of resisting and holding onto the faith and Our Lord's promises ...and encouraging each other as best we can ...waiting for God's providence and at least one True Catholic leader to appear on the world's stage...
Praise to Our Lord Jesus Christ!
Pope Francis and his people have emboldened these heretics and pervert priests.
In little more than one year, Pope Francis has given subtle support to all kind of dissenter in the Church. But his time is running short.
Even I they deny it in the Vatican, Pope Francis is ill....perhaps actually slowly dying, and when he goes, a new, CATHOLIC Pope will be elected to the horror of the amry of Pope Francis lovers....and the Catholic Church will be swept clean of these people by a series of great Popes in the mold of Pius XII, Pius X, and Benedict XVI. The first to go will be Pope Francis' biggest and loudest supporter....Cardinal Mariadiaga. He and his people will end their careers in disgrace.
Pope John Paul's "ecumenical things" were heretical, not merely "strange". Complete honesty is what is really "OK". Never be afraid of the complete truth.
Are you his physician? Or merely a mystic? And if you lump JPII's co-heretic Benedict XVI with saintly Catholic popes your crystal ball needs polishing.
God is going to use Islam to punish the West and purify the Church. It may be that Italy will fall to the Crescent, the Pope will flee Rome over the bodies of his dead priests, and Russia will come to the "rescue".
No, not a mystic, just someone who reads a lot, and the reports are that despite Vatican denials to the contrary, Pope Francis has a major health problem they are covering up. It's not as visible an illness as the one JPII had, but it's not minor either.
I read that many,many Cardinals are not pleased with the Pope Francis. They see him as a break with Catholic tradition and belief. And they know his time is growing short. Come conclave time, don't expect another Francis........quite the opposite.
To: Never Defend Evil (your nick-name says it all) and Byzcat, Mamma mia I see the sedevacantists and the prophets have gathered here together again to sort everybody out ...
You don't even know me - get some arguements instead of throwing one-liners at people ...
Anonymous , your obsession with the Pope's health is creepy and totally NOT Catholic.
Come - on the world is already an insane asylum as Susan said - we don't need to add to the madness on a Roman Catholic forum..
Hope I haven't overstepped myself Mr. Tancred...
You speak your mind, and are always welcome to do so. Glad you're here.
"Come conclave time, don't expect another Francis"
SOOOOOOOOOO hope you're right on this one.
It's a fact that a people get the 'leaders' they deserve. For the past 50 years 'serious' Catholics haven't been very serious at all. They have willingly allowed themselves to be blinkered, cajoled and soothed into accepting practices which were manifestly at variance with tradition, even common sense.
Why was pope Paul VI elected? Some cardinals must have known of his 'background'. Did they not alert their fellow cardinals? If not, why not?
Again, why was pope J-P II applauded by both laity and clergy for his syncretic activities at the Assisi gatherings?
If all this wasn't serious enough, there now seems to be a low key attempt to 'normalise' homosexual relations and abortion within the Catholic church.
Well, all I can say to that is even our pagan Germanic and Celtic ancestors had zero tolerance for such practices.
These things are applauded because way back when Popes were really Catholic, people were taught that the Pope was truly the Vicar of Christ on Earth, and that he was the "channel" so to speak between Heaven and Earth. His office held tremendous and awesome respect in the hearts of Faithful Catholics. So, unfortunately, even when Popes of the last 50 years taught error, such as Francis, or engaged in bizarre events such as John Paul II, or officiated at and promulgated Vatican II reforms as did Paul VI, we all applauded and cheered....even though we were being lead into error and apostasy.
Only the late, great Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and a few other Bishops, and now the SSPX and other traditionalist groups of similar identity refuse to do this. They are flourishing and we are not. We are vanishing.
Pope Francis is the worst of all. There should be a movement started to keep him from announcing anything that would destroy the Faith. Because given the chance, he and his people would do it.
Well, without repentance, there will be dozens of priests--maybe thousands?--who may have a hot reception at the time of death. That is no joke. Very serious responsibility! And clerics who lead souls astray, well there literally is hell to pay. Faithful Catholics must never cease to pray for them and for those poor sheep being led to hell.
Pope Saint John Paul the Great was a STAUNCH opponent of the vile, perverted filth of the sodomites. He affirmed and STRENGTHENED traditional Church teaching regarding such filth....many times.
During his reign he courageously held back the onslaught of the darkness that now seeks to drown us.....false sodomite marriage, sanctioned "openly" sodomite priests, etc.
Concepts and statements like "Who am I to judge" NEVER, EVER came out of his mouth...and the so-called "Gay Lobby" stayed deep in the closet (unlike their brazen ascendance today), fearing his retribution.
Was he the best Pope in the history of the Church...clearly no. But neither was he the worst....THAT distinction I think will be bestowed upon the current occupant of the Chair of St. Peter and Vicar of Christ.
These are no REAL Priest of our Lord. No authentic son of Mary, Our Immaculate Mother or TRUE Priest of Christ could ever commit or sanction such vile and evil filth.
These are satan-spawned imposters. NOT PRIESTS AT ALL!!!
Hail, Our Blessed and Most Holy Mary, Mother of God, gentle Queen of Heaven and Earth, Immaculate and Virgin, unto thee do we cry. Look down upon us, thy sorrowful children, as we go weeping in this vale of tears, and keep forever pure your priestly sons, whom we lift up to thee. For unto you do we turn, who art our Hope and Light in this world. Thou art our recourse and our strength, in whom we greatly place our trust. O merciful and gracious Mother, guide the shepherds called to feed the flock of God into the likeness of your resurrected Son, Jesus. And preserve them in this bleak hour of darkness from the taint of the evil one, whose head is crushed under your feet; even now, blessed, and forever more....AMEN.
"Saint"? The Quaran kissing breaker of the First Commandment?? Yeah. Right next to saint Muhammed and saint Ghandi. What a dope you are!
No dope...just a loyal son of the church, who, unlike you, knows that canonizations are INFALLIBLE. Therefore, since Pope SAINT Jonh Paul the Great was raised to the altars, his Sainthood is valid....
In spite of what you deluded sede's think or believe.
Whatever "sickness" one believes Francis has, it may bring him NEAR death BUT watch for a "miraculous" (planned) RECOVERY to make him even more POPULAR to the Modernists!
How can an apostate and manifest heretic who claims to be 'pope' make an 'infallible' decree??
Readers please excuse me while I put my tin-foil conspiracy hat on! It seems to me as an impartial observer that for the past 50 years, perhaps even longer, the center of control has not resided in the Vatican City but somewhere else. The whole script, stage management and direction that has been moving the Catholic Church toward a chasm of credibility suggests outside control, perhaps of a financial nature?
I recently read in an interview with C. Baldissiri (?) that in the upcoming Synod, they will look to possibly 'reinterpret' natural law. Now, maybe that will be in essence a synonym for 'redefine' when it all comes out of the wash, but whatever it shall be it will surely be a distortion of the truth.
heh, viterbo, that sort of happy rose colored glasses thing really puts me off most of Catholic radio/EWTN etc. Seems a denial of dangerous reality and inability to handle the grownup situations. You are right on!
They excommunicated SSPX.. For this?
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