Pius IX gave us the Syllabus of Errors which is inerrant magisterial teaching. Or do you think Pius IX lost the See, ipso facto, by espousing heresy prior to his election, or even during his term as Pontiff? Paul IV’s Cum ex Apostolatus Officio would support that understanding, given you believe the First Vatican Council was an infallible Ecumenical Council. John XXIII and Paul VI both have a strong cases for suspicion of heresy prior to their respective elevations to the Pontificate. On Roncalli alone:
For years the Holy Office had maintained a dossier on Roncalli which read “suspected of Modernism.” The file dated back to 1925, when Roncalli, who was known for his unorthodox teachings, was abruptly removed from his Professorship at the Lateran Seminary in mid-semester (he was accused of Modernism) and shipped off to Bulgaria. This transfer to Bulgaria began his diplomatic career. Of particular concern to Rome was Roncalli’s continuing, close association with the defrocked priest, Ernesto Buonaiuti, who was excommunicated for heresy in 1926, (Lawrence Elliot, “I Will be Called John,” 1973; pgs. 90-92). When Angelo Roncalli was the nuncio to France, he appointed a thirty-third degree Freemason and close friend, the Baron Yves Marsaudon, as head of the French branch of the Knights of Malta, a Catholic lay order, (“La Popessa,” 1983, Paul I. Murphy and R. Rene Arlington, pgs. 332-33).
If Pius IX has any similar controversy associated with him, I’m all ears. That piece doesn’t fit the puzzle to make sense of Vatican 2, except as an excuse to explain away Papal Infallibility, when the fruits of Religion during the times of Pius IX were remarkably better than now, in fact, we’ve been in an obvious backslide since the revolution in 58’. The Apostasy has a defining moment in the illegitimate election of Roncalli. How so Pius IX? The theory also credits no significance to Pius XII’s Vacantis Apostolicae Sedis which speaks authoritatively to defend the integrity of the The Church against would be usurpers.
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No, it didn't. We haven't had a valid pope since Gregory XVI
No Pope since 1846 ??
You are certainly "sede-vacante". Or, in English, "off your rocker".
Tucker:
Now, I've heard it all
Intriguing. Please explain why Pope Pius IX was in your opinion not valid.
Intriguing. Please explain why Pope Pius IX was not in your opinion a valid pope.
Maybe because Pio Nono was a liberal and Mason?
Pius IX gave us the Syllabus of Errors which is inerrant magisterial teaching. Or do you think Pius IX lost the See, ipso facto, by espousing heresy prior to his election, or even during his term as Pontiff? Paul IV’s Cum ex Apostolatus Officio would support that understanding, given you believe the First Vatican Council was an infallible Ecumenical Council. John XXIII and Paul VI both have a strong cases for suspicion of heresy prior to their respective elevations to the Pontificate. On Roncalli alone:
For years the Holy Office had maintained a dossier on Roncalli which read “suspected of Modernism.” The file dated back to 1925, when Roncalli, who was known for his unorthodox teachings, was abruptly removed from his Professorship at the Lateran Seminary in mid-semester (he was accused of Modernism) and shipped off to Bulgaria. This transfer to Bulgaria began his diplomatic career. Of particular concern to Rome was Roncalli’s continuing, close association with the defrocked priest, Ernesto Buonaiuti, who was excommunicated for heresy in 1926, (Lawrence Elliot, “I Will be Called John,” 1973; pgs. 90-92). When Angelo Roncalli was the nuncio to France, he appointed a thirty-third degree Freemason and close friend, the Baron Yves Marsaudon, as head of the French branch of the Knights of Malta, a Catholic lay order, (“La Popessa,” 1983, Paul I. Murphy and R. Rene Arlington, pgs. 332-33).
If Pius IX has any similar controversy associated with him, I’m all ears. That piece doesn’t fit the puzzle to make sense of Vatican 2, except as an excuse to explain away Papal Infallibility, when the fruits of Religion during the times of Pius IX were remarkably better than now, in fact, we’ve been in an obvious backslide since the revolution in 58’. The Apostasy has a defining moment in the illegitimate election of Roncalli. How so Pius IX? The theory also credits no significance to Pius XII’s Vacantis Apostolicae Sedis which speaks authoritatively to defend the integrity of the The Church against would be usurpers.
You must have led a very sheltered life.
Would Charles Coulombe make a good pope?
Probably not
I think not. He's far too liberal but maybe his cousin Gaston Claude Le Grandv Penseur would be acceptable
Is that a real dude?
No.
He is A.I.
And Kernel Sanders was a Freemason. Why don’t you ever mention that?
Probably not.
Cuz KFC is finger licking gud! What are you, some kinda Kommunist!
So was Paaaaul Haaaarvey, Good Day!
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