Monday, March 14, 2016

Father Michael Müller: Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus

Edit: well worth the read!  The more things change... Other Müllers would do well to copy the life of this evangelical giant.

CFN Editor’s Note:
 Father Michael Müller was one of the most widely read theologians of the 19th Century. He ranks as one of the greatest defenders of the dogma “Outside the Church there is no salvation” in modern times. Father Müller always submitted his works to two Redemptorist theologians and to his religious superiors before publication, thus we are sure of the doctrinal soundness of his teachings. This article, first published in 1875, is one of the finest treatments of the doctrinal truth that Our Lord founded one true Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation. Father Muller’s firm writings are desperately needed in our time when this doctrine is denied by those who are the most influential members of our Holy Church. We publish Father Müller’s excellent little Catechism as an antidote to the prevalent religious indifferentism — an indifferentism that is the direct result of what Blessed Pius IX denounced as “Liberal Catholicism”.

1. Do all admit that the Catholic Church is the first and the oldest Church, and, consequently the Church established by Jesus Christ?

That the Catholic Church is the first and oldest and consequently the Church established by Jesus Christ, is and must be admitted by all, because it is a fact clearly proven by Scripture and by history.

Who bear witness to this fact?

The Jews and the Gentiles bear witness to it, and even Protestants themselves acknowledge it, because, if asked why they call themselves Protestants, they answer: “Because we protest against the Catholic Church.”

3. What follows from this answer?

That the Catholic Church is older than Protestantism; otherwise they could not have protested against her.

4. If we go still further back and ask the Greek Church how they came into existence, what will be their answer?

The Greek Church must answer: “We began by separating from the Catholic Church in the 9th Century.”


Anonymous said...

How could this change.. It's impossible, if it were true then it's true now. Sorry for the language but modernists/liberals/socialists are dbags. Did Pius X say punch them in the face or no? I'll follow the saint, punch them in the face!

Anonymous said...

You may be interesting to know th a t Father Mike Tegeder is dying of cancer.

Sixupman said...

When was this last taught in the schools or from the pulpits?

Catholic Mission said...

The St. Benedict Centers are saying there are known exceptions to the dogma EENS,outside the Church there is known salvation, so they reject Vatican Council II for suggesting this.

Catholic Mission said...

Tancred (The Eponymous Flower) does not know the answer ?

Catholic Mission said...

School children have to interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational premise and so there is a break with the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus ,according to Fr.Michael Muller.

Dallas school children are told in Religion Class that the Church teaches all in the present times do not have to enter the Catholic Church for salvation


From school to university Catholic children are taught the false premise : Fort Worth Diocese

Ave Maria University of Tom Monaghan is making the same objective mistake as Fort Worth diocese

The same error is being taught at seminaries and so it is reflected from the pulpit.


Even at the traditional St.Benedict Center which says there are no known exceptions to the dogma EENS, they interpret Vatican Council II with an irrational inference. The conclusion is non traditional. So they reject the Council with reference to EENS.Indirectly they are saying that there are explicit exceptions to EENS.

St.Benedict Centers offer the Traditional Latin Mass with the Cushingite ecclesiology

The FIUV instead of assiting the traditionalist communities with the truth is part of the problem.

MAY 28, 2014
Foederatio Internationalis Una Voce official has nothing to say

The FIUV has been of no help to the Fischer More College and the Franciscans Friars of the Immaculate

Who will say in public that the contemporary magisterium has made a factual mistake and is implementing that mistake in Catholic schools and universities.While the SBC and the SSPX approve the error.CMTV does not want to touch this subject. The problem exists also in Detroit.

The SSPX approves the error with reference to (1) the Letter of the Holy Office and (2) also Vatican Council II. The SBC makes the same mistake only with Vatican Council II.

The Magisterium accepted the irrational reasoning in the second part of the Letter and then contradicted the centuries old magisterium of the Church. So at one time the magisterium had to be wrong.

Anonymous said...

In fairness, CMTV teaches very clearly that outside the Catholic Church is no salvation.

Catholic Mission said...


I am sorry to say that theologically they (CMTV) reject the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation.
Michael has said on a CMTV program that not every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church.
He means those who are saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire are known cases saved without the baptism of water. So they are known exceptions to the dogmatic teaching on all needing to be formal members of the Church for salvation for him. So for him not every one needs to enter the Church.

He contradicts himself.

The same error is made in the teaching of Catholic schools children in Religion Class in Detroit and CMTV does not do a program on this.

Michael remains political correct with the Left on this issue since he interprets the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with Cushingism i.e there are known exceptions to EENS and they include the baptism of desire etc.

He remains in good standing with the Curia in Detroit. They also say not every one needs to be a card carrying member of the Church.Since there are exceptions.There are persons saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire and blood.In other words these are not hypothetical cases but living and known people, for them to be exceptions.

He is in step with the magisterium at the Vatican. They interpret Vatican Council II as a break with the interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation. For them LG 16 refers to known cases.It is the same also for Michael Voris and Simon Rafe.
If you say that LG 16 according to common sense refers to an invisble case, known only to God Simon Rafe would consider you anti-Catholic.

Without this irrationality, used in the interpretation of EENS and the Council, Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14) would be saying all Jews and Muslims need to formally convert into the Church to avoid Hell.Vatican Council II would be Feeneyite. This is something they want to avoid.
When Christine Niles on the program on extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Mic'd Up) read out the text of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, from Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441, she skipped past the reference to the 'Jews'.She did not want to offend them.I think it is the same with Michael.

It was a good program by Christine and I hope she produces another such one. However she supported the position of the contemporary magisterium on the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which she quoted. The Letter assumes the baptism of desire and being saved are not just hypothetical cases but actual living and known people. So they are inferred to be exceptions or relevant to the intepretation of the dogma according to Fr.Leonard Feeney. She approved the magisterial heresy.

Unknown said...

If you accept Frank as pope, then you have to accept his canonizations as infallible, no?
I do believe this soon to be canonized lady would disagree with extra ecclesiam:

“Of course I convert. I convert you to be a better Hindu or a better Muslim or a better Protestant. Once you’ve found God, it’s up to you to decide how to worship him.”
Mother Teresa Touched Other Faiths, AP, Sept. 7, 1997

Tancred said...

Francis, and no.