(Madrid) The famous cathedral of Santiago de Compostela was desecrated by Buddhist and Shinto rites The Catholic Church prohibits in their churches every act of worship of another religion. Through the implementation of a strange rite a Catholic church is profaned, and requires a special rite to fix this desecration.
Nevertheless, it came as part of an event organized by the local tourist association "Japanese Week in Santiago", the desecration of the world famous place of pilgrimage cathedral by Buddhist monks and Shinto priests, who presented ritual songs and dances.
Tourism Association Organized "Japanese Week" and Allowed Buddhist and Shinto Dance in Cathedral
From the 9th to the 13th of May, Japan was presented in Santiago with a variety of events all year. It featured Japanese art, music and cuisine. On May 13th, the last day of the theme week, the event took place in the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela called "The Spirit of Japan". The program announced the event as "Songs and Dances of Buddhist monks and Shinto priests of the prefecture of Wakayama."
But how is it possible that the cathedral of the Archbishop could permit the Tourist Office to make it available, moreover even for ritual acts of foreign religions? This is what Catholics are currently asking. For the tourist office Santiago de Compostela all religions are equal, so for that reason religious programs can take place in a religious context, specifically Buddhist and Shinto rites in a Catholic church.
Holy Mass in a Side Chapel - Idolatry Before the High Altar
While Holy Mass was celebrated in the Blessed Sacrament Chapel of the Cathedral, the main nave of the church in front of the main altar was opened to Buddhist monks and Shinto priests for their rites.
The even was not mentioned on the website of the cathedral church, but without the consent of those responsible, the event could not have taken place. There is also no indication that the procedure required by the Church after a profanation, that is a purification rite, will be performed with a new consecration.
Are really all religions equal and a church is only a syncretic container dedicated to fit in all religions? What does Archbishop Julián Barrio of Santiago de Compostela mean by this?
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: Messa in Latino
image: Messa in Latino
Trans: Tancred email@example.com
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The archbishop is a weak-kneed apostate. Shame on Catholics for not rising up and driving those idolaters out of the holy place.
Another sign the end of days are upon us, apparently. Good reason to stay in a state of Grace and be ready as in the parable of the Ten Virgins. Apostasy is again rearing it's hellish head. Domine, miserere nobis. +JMJ+
Now JP II allowed this for most of his pontificate so we MUST OBEY the pope. That's what the liberal modernists keep telling us.
So, JP II permitted the desecration of churches and especially those at Assisi and they believe he is a saint? No wonder this is absolutely impossible. His own ecumenical and interconfessional behaviour illustrates a lack of sanctity because he encouraged indifferentism and even idolatry; possibly abominations in the Holy Places.
Unfortunately I was there and I am also impressed by the picture you posted ... I was in the chapel of the Blessed Sacrament as I heard " barking canines " issued by their tools and went out to go see what it was ! Imagine the shock you , people who came after miles of walking and it was this show , because the show was just treated . Performances and clapping hands of curious tourists ! The error is to grant the use of the cathedral for these cultural events !
We stopped the priest who has settled a bit ' hastily , saying that he knew nothing about it !
While in the sacristy , complaining about the matter with a nun , she, not tipping the scales too, as silent and obedient subject , has made clear his disgust . The show lasted about an hour. To have the record I have to say that the same oriental , the day before they attended mass very composedly . A curious fact is that their leader asked the interpreter why not double altar by understanding why! As if to say, because a " desk " in front of the high altar ! ? ! ?
On the same day , before these things more regrettable fact .
Coram Deo altar of the Chapel of the Saviour, in the choir banister , putting into German with autocomunione of the faithful who dipped himself the particle into the chalice ...
The Tourist association is not to blame, The entire social climate and sentiment is to give an inch to the devil, while he takes a mile.
Catholic Spain! Did the kings of yesteryear, who but for a few generations were slaves to Islam, really imagine their country, nonetheless the most sacred place, being tainted by heathen religion?
In fact, the Spaniards are now most likely ashamed of the fact that Spanish priests and religious died to evangelize Japan; and now this Japanese "religion" tramples and dances upon their memory and the bones of St. James in Santiago.
Who is to blame? How do we send a message and teach a lesson?
I say, we should resume the most merciful work of converting the Japanese Emperor.
Offensive? Go ahead and be offended, I am not afraid of offending for the sake of charity and mercy.
The problem with many concerning St. John Paul ll is that they have misunderstood him and have no desire to understand him. Taking Assisi as an example, St. John Paul ll planned that event with great discretion. The world was in grave danger of self destruction, St. JP2 called upon leaders of all peoples to come to one place, each in their own tradition begging God for peace. He gave strict instructions that Catholics not join other religions in prayer nor to invite them to join in Catholic prayers. He had the whole world represented in one spot pleading the one true God to grant peace to the world. God I'm sure was much pleased with this act. It is said that His Holiness was extremely angry when he found out afterwards that Catholics, among them, the Franciscan Friars disobeyed his orders. These even went as far as allowing pagans to enter the Portiuncula. A grave sacrilege!
A good Priest once blasted me with a very important admonishment, "Do not presume to know what you do not know!" Let the misunderstanding of this Great Saint cease. St. John Paul ll, Te rogamus, audi nos!
Remember the Martin Sheen film 'The Way', 2010? Apparently they had difficulty obtaining permission to film in the Cathedral:
"They only allow documentaries, and occasional newsreel footage, but never let anyone in there with a script. They didn't know whether we were going to denigrate it or uphold the sacredness of it," says Sheen.
"It was right on their part to think that we were just yet another bunch of cynical Americanos who were going to disrespect the church," Estevez says. "It didn't matter about [Dad's] faith. It didn't matter what the movie was about. They said, 'No entrance. We can't have this'. And they also didn't want to set a precedent."
How hypocritical. Obviously the Cathedral authorities are very selective in their concern for 'upholding the sacredness' of the Church.
How do you know this interfaith camp out was pleasing to God. Most people, whether they appreciated or reviled this circus, saw it as syncretism, and if he was angry about interfaith prayer, he should have done more to preach against it in his pontificate. I actually don't recall any public denunciations of interfaith prayer.
Remember that story where the Orthodox Jews are up in arms about Pope Francis planning to celebrate Mass in the Cenacle?
They said that once Mass is held there, it would be inappropriate for Jews to pray there.
I do hope Pope Francis says the Mass there, Novus Ordo or not.
It's the least Church authorities can do after letting this happen. I mean, what, will Catholic priests and bishops pray in front of Buddha, as if he's a saint or something? Offering incense to his image in Todaiji in Japan?
See, a lot of Christians forget that Catholicism isn't just a cultural picture-book thing of beauty. It's confrontational and disturbing. This is why Catholicism is seen in Japan as strange and foreign no matter how much "Inculturation" is involved. And so, it must embrace this, and confront the heathen religion of Japan.
Japan is fundamentally pagan. It is the most pagan of all pagan nations. Even Hinduism is a step closer to our God than Japanese religion. Why? Because paganism is inherently naturalistic, therefore materialistic. If the most sacred is found in what is natural, by extent there is nothing wrong with striving for material gain, for material comfort, and material success. But in paganism, it is inevitable to fall into nihilism. Why? Because all matter must pass, and rich and poor alike die and become food for worms. If you look at Japanese religion, uninfluenced by Buddhism, the Afterlife is just a state of perpetual rot. There is no glory. There is no life. Just rot. This is why Japanese culture is obsessed with cleanliness, so much that the first few capitals of Japan moved frequently because of the pollution of death- until the introduction of Buddhism and cremation.
Don't you see the connection between Japan's material prosperity, its historically self-destructive philosophies, and its current birth rate problems? They all point to a fundamentally pagan root, and that paganism will devour them like a beast. In fact, in 100 years, there my not be any more "Japanese People".
If you are a people of Faith, Hope, and Charity, do what you can for the Japanese people, for they are indeed hell-bound so long as they are outside the Church, and we keep them ignorant of Christ.
It's very sad this happened in this very important pilgrimage cathedral. I wonder if the Buddhist monks would allow Catholics to perform a religious ceremony in one of their temples. I wonder what the Buddhist monks think about our Faith that we allowed this in Santiago.
Before I get branded an apostate, I think it's very telling that we could actually learn something from these Buddhist monks. I think I have a fondness for them after having watched Kung Fu in the 70s, but don't you think it's embarrassing that the vestments they're wearing are vastly better than some of the polyester chasubles some of our priests wear? Not only that, I think their monkly training is quite rigorous (I could be wrong though). They seem peaceful enough. They still have their fighting monks the Shaolin, while we backstabbed our Templars. Do you think a Buddhist abbot would allow his monks to dance along to Lady Gaga's Bad Romance like some Dominicans did? Way back I remember watching a documentary on Buddhist monks running a really intense drug rehab programme for addicts. It wasn't for the faint-hearted and the monks wouldn't budge an inch. They really helped the people. People seem to listen to them.
It's just embarrassing that other faiths seem to keep to their faith systems more than we do ours.
I was thinking the same. They look vastly more reverent than what usually goes on in churches that pass as Catholic these days.
How do I know that the event of Assisi was pleasing to God? When one strives to know, love and serve God it is only too obvious that he was pleased. Some Catholics may commit the damnable error of hating everyone that is not Catholic, but not God, he called each and every human being into existence out of his love for them. By the way what happened after Assisi? Did not communism fall? If one would have followed St. John Paul ll one would know that he never took part in interfaith prayer. As for our Great Saint not constantly at every moment denouncing interfaith prayer, the fact is that he gave very strict official orders that it was not to be done and that on many occasions. Those who rejected him missed all those golden moments. Recently Cardinal Burke put it this way, "We have the Faith, we do not have to proclaim it everyday. We have it!"
Are you one of those people who sees saints in cinnamon rolls?
Communism didn't fall, it just realigned itself, did some rebranding and continued what it was doing before, in places like China, for example.
"If one would have followed St. John Paul ll one would know that he never took part in interfaith prayer."
He kissed a koran....a POPE kissing a demonically inspired koran!
He allowed a buddha statue to be placed on a tabernacle (!!!!)
This is desecration of a great Catholic shrine, that of St James, of all saints, and there were no protests, as far as I can tell, No, the commercial pressures prevailed. Tourism and all that.
What this shows is the extent to which Catholicism has decayed into a secularist relativist mess of pottage in the post Vatican II period. The prime culprits are our bishops. They seem to have lost their faith in the Magisterium of the Church and have stopped teaching, so is it any wonder that the Catholic laity are indifferent or worse still, just don’t seem to notice.
To illustrate this point I heard a report recently of parishioners complaining that the covering of statues during Holy week of all times - made the church feel gloomy!
Yes I do see God in cinnamon rolls. I am a Traditionalist Roman Catholic so I see God in all things. Here is a refresher from the Baltimore Cathecism. God is everywhere, he is in all things visible and invisible. So I do see him in cinnamon rolls, God created all that is in them and gave man the talent to create them from his own creation. So my answer is again, yes. So communism just realigned itself, perhaps this is just a case of whether the glass is half empty or half full. How easy it is to just plain deny reality for convenience sake, instead of having to admit reality. The Pope kissed the koran, that is still being debated. When that photo was taken, the debate continues whether he did or did not. Even if he did, Christ made this clear, "judge what is in no mans heart as only God knows whats in his heart". Islam was created from 2 religions, the Roman Catholic and that of the unbelieving Jews, the koran has a great deal of the truths of the Catholic Church, so now rethink your view. As for St. John Paul ll allowing a statue of buddha on a tabernacle, from where does this source come from? I imagine from those with their load of nauseating conspiracy theories. Also these two examples don't constitute "interfaith prayer".
And there speaks the liberal modernist - you talk like a phenomenologist. The quran has even more falsehoods than truths and it commits a crime against the Bible by distorting it. I have lived and worked for over 20 years among mohamatans and studied their quran - and the hadith - they encourage violence and they wish to oppress Christians and all non-mohamatans. It is a book that blasphemes against The Blessed Trinity. Embracing a quran in public as a pope is a scandal of epic proportions just as are the many other acts of ecumenical relativism he committed. Our Blessed Lord taught us to judge a tree by the fruit it bears. Ecumenism as enemy of the Immaculata, as St Maximilien Kolbe stated has no place in evangelising the Christian message because the liberal modernists use it in a reductionist manner to strip The faith of its uniqueness and its authority as The Truth - not a hotchpotch of falsehoods resembling semi-truth which of itself is false anyway.
"What this shows is the extent to which Catholicism has decayed into a secularist relativist mess of pottage in the post Vatican II period..."
Indeed and the post-conciliar liberals have squandered our birthright in fewer than 50 years.
Damask, What you said made me chuckle because I think we all find what you are saying are the same thoughts many of us Catholics rightfully think.
No, it's a case of simple reality. There was no "miracle" of the end of Communism because Communism wasn't defeated, and there is a word for people who pathologically impose supernatural events to ordinary events and objects. I can think of a few right now ...
So the New Protestant or rather the Extremist Traditionalist Jihadist pulls out his sword to behead this Traditionalist. We Traditionalists either unite in the truth or disperse into thousands of sects, failing Jesus Christ our King who is the WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE! Its up to us, will we unite or shall we start bowing to our modernist heretic leaders who's goal is to undo the liberation that St. John Paul ll obtained for us traditionalists in "Ecclesia Dei Adflicta". We need great men to come out and save the Church. As long as we are divided no such men exist.
And this amongst so many other things is why I just gave up. I in my heart am a Catholic but I just loath what the Church has become. I came back to the Church under Benedict but as I watched Francis so easily undo all of Benedict's work I realised that the only thing that is truly stable is Scripture itself. If the Council (V2) was guided by the Spirit, where did that Spirit go afterwards? I cannot see how God would move a Council to wreak havoc on his Church and actively destroy people's faith. I do not believe the Spirit could do that. If the Spirit wasn't at V2, how can I be certain he was at ay of the other Councils. The only this I can be certain of is that Jesus is God and if he didn't say it or do it I will have no faith in it. You can quote scripture all you like to tell me I am mistaken or an apostate, but look above, they are worshiping a false deity in a cathedral. of all places. This is the fruit of the Council and isn't it by our fruits we shall be known. If the Council did this and the Spirit moved the Council, then the Spirit caused this blasphemy. Now God would not cause so many to abandon the Faith and allow others to blaspheme in His own temple. If He would not cause such things, how can we be confident that He guided the Council? If we can doubt his presence at this Council, how can we be certain he was at the others?
And then there are those who live in doomsday fantasy hell! Nothing, absolutley nothing good happened or could have happened after the Council. It seems like anyone who says God performed any type of good after V2, Let him be Anathema! How terrible it must be to live in doomsday from moment to moment for 50 years. Yes there are many words one certain person can think of right now, but then we all have the capability of doing the same. Right?
Nobody, extreme, mild or otherwise really likes a song and dance man.
Archer, Don't give up! I would like to try to shed some light on what you have said. First when St. John XXlll called for the Council he prepared 5 Schemas which would be Vatican 2. After the first session he called his closest Cardinal collaborators to think of a way to gracefully end the Council as he seen trouble ahead, but he died. At the Council the modernist heretic council Fathers had a majority vote. They abolished 4 of St. John's Schemas, one of those was to deal with the errors that had crept into the Church, modernist heresies of course. Cardinal Kaspar a modernist, not to long ago admitted to what traditionalists were already saying. he confirmed the the Council was deliberatley written in an ambiguous language, causing great debates and compromise. An Archbishop said that by the ambiguous language one can make the Council whatever he wishes. The Holy Ghost was at the Council, the only ones who cooperated with him were the traditionalists. Then came St. John Paul ll, in his first month he ordered priests back into the cassock, Religious to wear a clearly identifiable habit etc... The first important thing he concentrated on was the restoration of the Latin Tridentine Mass. He wanted the SSPX to come back officially, after Lefevbre sighed the agreement it was rumored that Lefevbre would receive the Red Hat from St. John Paul ll. His Holiness and the then Cardinal Ratzinger began the task of the reform of the reforms, undoing what the modernists had done. Restoring feast days, Catholic devotional traditions, condemning all the heresies of the modernists very swiftly. Then comes Pope Benedict XVl and he continued to rebuild the Church. Lets look back briefly to the Old Testament, when God's people rebelled against God, man no longer wanted to do God's will, rather they wanted God to do mans will. God would punish them and abandon them. Till they repented and pleaded for his mercy. 1 Month before Benedict XVl announced his retirement he said this publicly, "Many today think that Christ has abandoned his Church. And rightly so, as it does seem at times that Christ has in fact abandoned his Church.". Two hours after announcing his retirement, lightning struck St. Peter's Basilica. Then we got Pope Francis who has only proven himself a modernist. The good news is that even the modernist are fed up with the Pope they always wanted. The modernists are becoming deeply and more deeply a tower of babel, they are confusing themselves and Catholics are now ignoring them, they don't want to hear anymore of what these leaders have to say. It seems God is punishing not his Church but rather its defiant members. The answer of course is traditional Catholicism, but we traditionalists are in danger of becoming a tower of babel also, thats if it hasn't already happened. We must restudy the old Catechism and restore our faith in practice, only then can we defeat modernism. If not, then God will have to cleanse this world his way. And we will roast right next to the modernist. Just a very few thoughts of the positive things that have happened in the post-vatican ll Church, many, many more good things like these have happened and are happening and hopefully will continue to happen.
Here is a quote from Yoko Kanno, a Japanese composer whose works could be found in their mainstream media- her words reflect the general sentiment among the Japanese:
"I'm not religious at all. But Japanese don't believe in one God, but in gods everywhere in plants and animals. That's right. In Japan, Christianity has a wonderful image. People enjoy the image of Christ and Christianity in picture books, but not as a religion."
And that is Christianity in the West. Just a picture book religion, sometimes you can find what it left behind in museums. What they call "Christianity" now, they mostly mean social clubs filled with dullards, and dotards. At least, that's the impression given at any random church in the West.
Give us a vital, intelligent, masculine Church, not one that either shrugs like those priests who don't know why there are buddhists at Santiago, or a Church that has capitulated to the "Modern World".
Long Live the Remnant, Hail, Our Lord and King Jesus Christ!
It is worth mentioning for those unaware that this sacrilege took place meters from the tomb of St James: martyr, beloved Apostle of our Saviour, "son of thunder", revered with love by who knows how many millions of pilgrims across the Christian centuries.
How long will Our Lord tolerate this continuous stream of offences, before we are wiped from the face of the earth?
Santiago Apóstol, blessed companion of Our Lord, martyr of the true Faith, pray for us.
Dear Archer Balls, I fully comprehend your dismay and confusion. Been there done that! Go to www.novusordowatch.org. Your questions will be answered and you will find the truth again, in the Holy Catholic Faith.
Archbishop Lefebvre didn't receive a red hat - those pass. He was given a crown of glory instead - which is far better, and never passes away. He stood up for the Faith, no matter what, even though doing so cost him excommunication. If there had been five cardinals like him, the Church would probably have been safe. Even if if he is never canonised, that won't make him any less a Saint and a hero. Traditional Catholics owe him an enormous debt.
Buddhism is not a religion. It is a way of life, a philosophy. Thomas Merton described himself as a Catholic-Jesuit-Buddhist-Taoist.
Since Merton was a "Trappist" I'd be very surprised if he described himself in that way.
The Buddhists in question were not the first to put on a show at the cathedral. Just go there for any ($pons$ored) Mass where the famous "botafumeiro" censer is swung from the rafters. It's the biggest tourist extravaganza in town. The tour buses pack out the place, the "worshipers" stand up on the pews to get better video pics and selfies. The cathedral puts on a great show, it's cashing in every day. A few chanting Buddhists just add a bit of color to the usual smoke and mirrors cope and miter fabulosity.
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