Saturday, August 25, 2012

Cardinal Meisner Oversteps Mandate: Condemns the SSPX

He excommunicates his own people:  "Whoever rejects completely or partly doctrinal statements, can not be in full communion with the Church".
Joachim Kardinal Meisner
Pressebild Erzbistum Köln

(  The Society of St. Pius X is schismatic.

This nonsense is maintained by the Neoconservative laissez-faire Cardinal Joachim Meisner of Cologne on his website ''.

The Neoconservative Prince of the Church, who allows Old Liberals to do as they please, has shown himself  to be a bitter enemy of the Society.

Second Vatican Council:  "Abortion is a horrible crime"

In his Diocese the Cardinal lets the Devil dance.

So does the aid agency 'Caritas' which is under his supervision, link to the Nazi founded anti-Church child murdering chain 'pro familia', despite numerous protests.

'Caritas Cologne' propagates its gender madness and would like that children live in abnormal sexual role models.

The Catholic pregnancy counselor of the Archdiocese of Cologne  sends pregnant mothers to advice counseling, which issues death certificates for child slaughter.

From Cardinal Meisner's own people, there is no demand of the acceptance of the statement of the Second Vatican Council that abortion is a "horrible crime".

Stupid statements and completely out of the question

The text of the Cardinal consists of bowing and scraping to the Pope and various problems against the Society of St. Pius X.

Benedict XVI. has experienced a setback, he winced:  "Only think of the stupid and completely unacceptable statements of Bishop Williamson."

It is related to a legitimate historical request, which hasn't received till today an answer.

Yet he still has no problems collaborating with an Old Nazi organization like 'pro familia'.

Did Christ not Die For the Jews?

The Holy Father has "always made it clear" that the Society must unmistakably accept the Magisterium -- writes Cardinal Meisner of the Pope.

The recognition of the Magisterium contains acceptance of all of the Councils.

To that belongs -- the magisterially sparsely binding -- Decree 'Nostra Aetate' on the relationship of churches to non-Christian religions.

This is distorted today by the supporters of Cardinal Meisner in a distorted anti-Semitic meaning related to the Jews , that Christ did not die for the Jews.

Vague Allegations

Cardinal Meisner complains that the Society should withdraw its "criticism of the Holy Father.

They have -- supposedly -- said, that the Pope is "not right believing".

It is completely unclear what the Cardinal is accusing the Society of doing.

Dusted off the schism club tucked away before the Council

The Prince of the Church even had the insolence to project things which are really applicable only to the Conciliar Church of German, onto the true believing Society.

"Whoever rejects partially or completely the doctrinal expressions of the Council,  can not have complete communion with the Church."

Cardinal Meisner's unjust condemnation against the Society is in reality a break with the Conciliar Church.

Conciliar Church without a Future

They remain "thus they are suspended and continue as a schismatic group along with their bishops" - rants the Cardinal, but has nothing to say about the gay-friendly Cardinal Rainer Maria Woelki of Berlin.

 The state of the Brotherhood will only change when they fully recognize the "Second Vatican Council" fully, including its decrees on religious freedom, the relationship with the Jews and the currently valid form of the Liturgy of the Catholic Church."

 The problem is that before that happens, the dogmatically unbinding Pastoral Council, together with the Conciliar Church, will be long since piled up on the trash heap of history.

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Timotheas said...

Read that this morning.
All I can say is ROFL!!!!!

By what authority do you speak, bishop? The Society enjoy the comfort of Divine assistance. You do not. Please sit down.

Catholic Mission said...

Isthis cardinal in heresy?


Cardinal Donald Wuerl, Archbishop of Washington, US
A dismissed a priest who appealed to Cardinal Raymond Burke, Prefect, Supreme Tribunal, Vatican.Cardinal Burke supported the priest but Archbishop Wuerl refused to take him back in the diocese.The priest said he had the satisfaction of the decision of the Supreme Tribunal.

Cardinal Burke decides so many cases and Catholics seek justice at his office. He is respected for his honesty and integrity and traditional Catholic values.

Now it is Cardinal Burke who is not affirming the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus without the Cardinal Richard Cushing error. This is the error of being able to see the dead saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire- and these cases are supposed to be exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma according to Fr. Leonard Feeney.

So along with traditionalist priests he assumes that those saved in invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) are exceptions to the defined dogma which says all need to convert into the Church for salvation.With this irrational and heretical position he offers the Traditional Latin Mass.

Instead of affirming the faith and correcting the priests who offer the Pontifical Latin Mass with him he permits the heresy to go unchecked.This is an impediment for those who offer the Latin Mass including the Pontifical Latin Mass.

We do not know anyone saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. So there are no exceptions to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.Vatican Council II (AG 7) is in accord with the dogma and the Syllabus of Errors .

The cardinal is also silent while there is a public campaign to get theSociety of St.Pius X ( SSPX), to accept Vatican Council II as a break from the dogma and the Syllabus of Errors. They are being threatened,and are being forced to accept heresy or face an' ecclesial rupture'. The cardinal remains silent.

Where is the text in Vatican Council II which says we know Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire? None.

Yet the SSPX has to mouth heresy like Cardinal Kurt Koch and Archbishop Augustine Di Noia and Cardinal Burke is silent.

How can a religious offer Mass according to Canon Law who is in public mortal sin?

The SSPX should ask Cardinal Raymond Burke to publicly comment on this issue . The leftist newspapers and journalists will not ask him these questions.

Catholic Mission said...


1.Do we know any one saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire?

2.So are invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which says every one needs to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation?

3.'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257). Do we know any such case? Someone who is saved without the Sacraments is known to us ? Can this case be an exception to the dogma? Does the Catechism contradict the dogma here?

4.Those who know about Jesus and the Church need to convert to avoid Hell and those who do not know can be saved (LG 14).Can we say that any particular person known to us will be saved ? Can we say that anyone personally known to us 'who does not know' is saved or will be saved? Is this not known only to God?
So does LG 14,Vatican Council II contradict the dogma?

5.We do not know anyone saved with the 'seeds of the Word', imperfect communion with the church, 'elements of sanctification'(LG 8),being 'good and holy'(NA), a good conscience and invincible ignorance (LG 16).So these cases do not contradict the dogma? Vatican Council II here does not contradict the dogma?

6.Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus?

7.All those who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church (CCC 846) does not contradict everyone needs to enter the Church 'as through a door' ?(CCC 846,AG 7). So it also does not contradict the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus? Does the Catechism contradict the dogma here?

8.Ad Gentes 7(all need faith and baptism) does not contradict Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance/ good conscience)? Does Vatican Council II contradict itself here?

9.AG 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation and also, there can be those saved in invincible ignorance etc. Does AG 7 contradict itself?
-Lionel Andrades