Showing posts with label Bishop Tebartz-van Elst. Show all posts
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Sunday, October 13, 2013

Bishop Tebartz-van Elst Flies to Rome -- What is Really Behind the Limburg Conflict?

Edit: anyone reading this should be able to recognize the basic pattern being established, and that the same indicators are present in other parts of the world. There is a single diabolical force at work destroying the Church from within.



(Limburg) The Limburg Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz van Elst is on the flight to Rome. The already long simmering conflict over his person has its starting point not in the perceived or actual cost of the episcopal residence. It is of an older date and of an entirely different nature. Cardinal Giovanni Lajolo who was himself sent to Limburg to investigate matters finally said: "That there exists also a media campaign is not to be overlooked. The faithful also notice this. The cause of the current conflicts but are much deeper. In my conversations, I have noticed that the latent tensions have existed already for decades and are now manifesting themselves. "Curial Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller described the accusations against the bishop of Limburg even "self-perpetuating lies". So what is real?

The "Synodal Church" of Limburg - 60 Years of Progressive Listing

When former Auxiliary Bishop of Münster came to Limburg in 2008, he found the heritage of the bishops Wilhelm Kempf (1949-1981) and Franz Kamphaus (1982-2008). The diocese on the Lahn was completely in this hands of the progressive camp during the 60s. Die Zeit called Kempf in 1973 a "regional edition of John XXIII." and recognized him thus as one of the leading "representatives" of the "two opposing camps in the Catholic Church." Kempf and Kamphaus were, to put it more precisely, "representatives" of the "spirit of the Council", not the Council itself, and certainly not the Church's tradition. Bishop Kempf did not oppose the theologian Hans Kessler, as this in his book Salvation as Liberation put Christi's Divinity and ​​the mystery of salvation into question. Kempf even took a liking to those non-binding notions which came into fashion in the 60s.

In place of "ecclesiastical paternalism" continued Kempf "co-responsibility of the laity and priests, not legitimized by offices, but through democratic elections" as Die Zeit as always thrilled, reported in 1973. What was meant was that the so-called Limburger "Synodal Way," with the specific election by parish councils, district assemblies and a diocesan congregation, plus a Diocesan Synodal Constitution. The search for ideas proved not to be difficult, "democratization" and "participation" were buzzwords of the time and finally took one look over the fence to the Protestants in order to find itself in synodical fraternity. That later a fraternity came of this association was only consequential.

Kempf to Kamphaus: Persevering in the state system for the killing unborn children

Bishop Franz Kamphaus was the ideal replacement for the Kempf-diocese. In the progressive milieu in which Kempf was like John XXIII., today Kamphau would be described as the "regional version of Pope Francis," were he not retired for years. Kamphaus gained fame through his insistence to participate in the state system of killing unborn children. In 1999 John Paul II called, after a long back and forth, for a definitive exit of German dioceses from state pregnancy conflict counseling, which meant an involvement in the abortion industry. "Enlightened" Catholics who did not mind the blood on their hands, defied the papal instruction and founded the still existing club Donum Vitae ( see separate report ). Limburg was the only diocese in which the bishop defied the Pope. John Paul II finally gave the then Auxiliary Bishop of Limburg special powers to carry out the exit of the diocese from the government extension system. Kampfhaus then offered John Paul II his resignation demonstratively, but Rome refused it. Such a break, according to the recommendations from Germany, should be urgently avoided to evoke no schism.

Kamphaus remained in place, and also had much experience in the Church eating out. In 2007, on the completion of his 75th year, Benedict XVI. did not hesitate one second to make him emeritus.

Bishop For Functionary Crew is an Intruder - a Clash of Conflicting Understanding of the Church

 Kempf and Kamphaus left a diocese that was structurally firmly in the hands of the progressive camp, firmly in the grip image of the Zeit Article of 1973. The new Bishop appointed by Benedict XVI., Tebartz van Elst was an intruder from the outset, like an alien species in a largely enclosed habitat. A "progressive" habitat with a "conservative" foreign body. This history is necessary to elucidate the actual context in which the whole current "Limburger conflict" going on.

In Limburg since 2008 there were successive strikes of a contrary understanding against the Church. The partisanship of the media is most easily explained because of the smell of the barn parties. If it is now about Germany's borders in the news about is that there are "many years criticizing an authoritarian style of leadership" of the incumbent Limburg Bishop, as is the fact that there are these "critics" to take absolutely literally, far less the accusation of "authoritarian leadership style." For the proponents of the "synodal" the Catholic Church understanding of authority is in itself unreasonable.

The question of protection of life played a central role from the beginning. The attitude of the rebellious club Donum Vitae is considered a point of intersection in Limburg. Bishop Tebartz van Elst of Limburg stood on the "wrong" side of the establishment from the first day. He insisted that Donum Vitae is incompatible with the Church. This also explains the involvement of the ZdK Chairman Alois Glück against the bishop. Fortune smiled on the founder of Donum Vitae, which has since been in open conflict with the Catholic Church, with all the consequences that hardly anyone dares to speak in church in Germany.

Cost Issues for Diocesan Bishop, Including Center Apartment Forced Issues?

The campaign against the unwanted bishop is not moored of course on substantive issues, that would be under Benedict XVI. would have been pointless anyway an onerous goal. Instead, they discovered a far more promising, because “neutral", battleground. The cost of the renovation of the episcopal palace in Limburg. Bishop Kempf made a demonstration of his humility, left in the episcopal residence and moved to the seminary. The return after decades proved more costly than in other dioceses. Existent alongside the Limburg Cathedral is a mix of old building renovation and new construction. On the cost side, Bishop Tebartz van Elst did not seem to care. He also doesn't necessarily have to. Especially not since the inflated official apparatuses of German dioceses where everything there is subject to specialists and experts. However, concerning 31 million, of which the finance committee of the Diocese now talks, is not the impression manipulated by the critics, only to a small part, the Bishop's house. It's about a building complex comprising a diocesan center and other facilities. The finance committee, which now matches the chorus of critics, however, seem to have been asleep for years.

In times of financial crisis and even with the gesture of pressure on the neck by Pope Francis, it will soon succeed in any case to put the bishop into the corner of the accused. The exploitation of envy complexes in parts of the population comes cheaply. The end justifies the means for the Bishop’s opponents.

Cost Criticism on Sandy Soil - Monetary Policy of the Spokesmen of the Bishop’s Critics

The criticism is built on sandy soil, is shown with a view to the spokesman of the Bishop's critics. For this purpose, Frankfurt’s Metropolitan Dean John Eltz has invoked, including supported signature collection of "Frankfurter Catholics" against their bishop. It doesn't help that Dean zu Eltz who accuses the Bishop of "luxury addiction" of "wasting money" and of meticulously riding the cost issue, for his part showed a Christian bookstore in Frankfurt the door because he wants to rent the premises of the building as lucrative church property. If so, according to Dean van Eltz "everything" revolves around money for Bishop Tebartz van Elst, it does not seem to be any different for him, however. And by this, he unmasked his own face, for with his criticism of Limburg Bishop actually stands in the same place: it is primarily a church-political power struggle in order to then tactical resupply and for the collection of auxiliary troops, personnel, interpersonal aspects and joined also to the high renovation and construction costs.

With the exorbitant costs appearing - be careful, because the numbers seem to inflate rapidly in parallel with the escalation of the conflict - ', it is not to quibble for Bishop Tebartz van Elst made himself vulnerable. Since he does little that "disappoints" curious visitors at the open day were, because they found no "golden water taps", but a relatively tight complex. The bishop had granted all access to the new episcopal residence to his critics to take place through inspection, which took the wind out of their sails. After all, brother Paul Terwitte recalled that each kilometer of motorway costs 40 million euros. His colleague, Cardinal Archbishop Reinhard Marx of Munich and Freising in 2008 came out with at least eight million euros of renovation costs for his episcopal palace. The order is important to note. Apart from that the Bishop of Limburg seems to be surrounded by bad advisers. After the costs appeared, not once has any asked for them.

Alliances to Destroy "Ratzingerianers"

What is important is that alliances have been found, a conservative force, but above all to destroy "Ratzingerianer" from the ranks of the bishops. There are found brothers in the episcopate, which cut into the chair of their confrere, like the said Cardinal Marx, as well as the chairman of the German Bishops' Conference, Archbishop Emeritus of Freiburg. Under Pope Francis one sees a change in the winds. If it was initially only an intra-church power struggle of local importance, the matter quickly would have received a completely different dimension, as the rumor made the rounds, Bishop Tebartz van Elst could be next succeeding Cardinal Joachim Meisner, Archbishop of Cologne and thus a potential candidate for the Office of the President of the German Bishops' Conference and probably also Cardinal. [Men like him are our last hope.] A development that some will prevent under all circumstances to take place.

The list of "hunted" conservative bishops who were chased from their offices in the German-speaking areas by scandals, sometimes unsavory smear campaigns, is already long. It all started with the Archbishop of Vienna, Cardinal Hans Hermann Groër (1995), was continued against the Bishop of Chur Wolfgang Haas (1997), who was at least assigned by Rome as Archbishop of Vaduz, followed by Bishop Kurt Krenn of St. Pölten (2004) and Bishop Walter Mixa of Augsburg (2010).

List of Bishops of a Martyr Church's Brutal Political Struggle

However different the situation might have been, they still all share one thing in common, behind them there was always a battle by progressive Church circles who wanted to prevent a resurgence of the forces faithful to the Church. And in each, an unholy alliance was newly formed with unchurched secular media, which generated the necessary public pressure. The role and weight distribution is unique: all "fired" bishops were in the eyes of the hunters, "conservative." The hunters were always progressive. It must be said, given the motivations of the persecutors of martyred bishops.

Also mentioned in this context that prevented appointment of Rev. Gerhard Maria Wagner as Auxiliary Bishop of Linz (2009), a diocese, which is controlled by the prototype of a de facto "bishop-less" diocese, by a progressive, green-catechism functionary apparachiks, in house Liberal clergy who are assigned to leadership positions. Also, there is a prototype for numerous good faith initiatives and Catholics and priests faithful to the Church, but they were made leaderless by the prevention of Bishop Wagner. It can be claimed that the prevailing progressive circles just want to maintain or achieve this lack of leadership on the other side.

Now Bishop Tebartz van Elst is no Bishop Krenn, but that should not blind us to certain commonalities that we think we see on the other side, on the side of his critics and hunters. The longer the list of successful bishops who are forced out of office, the more arrogant is the party of the hunt. It presents the impression already that is made unpopular, if necessary, through a targeted and coordinated campaign by progressives, that "superior" Bishops can be thrown out again. A devastating impression that the understanding of the Church can be clearly placed in the latently schismatic part of the Church. In this regard, it would be more desirable than that Tebartz van Elst, Bishop of Limburg remains. The signs are, however, not for that. The Hunting Party is powerful. Bishop Tebartz van Elst is seated on a flight to Rome. This will bring clarity. But what?

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
 Image: Wikicommons
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmailcom

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Monday, March 21, 2011

A New List of Three Episcopal Successors for the Archdiocese of Berlin

Editor: Bishop van Elst was the favorite last time we heard about this to replace the Old Liberal Archbishop Georg Sterzinsky. So that's two major Archdiocese up for new Bishops, including Milan right now.

Berlin Air

Germany. Either the Nuncio or the Berlin Cathedral have compiled a three list for the selection of the new Archbishop of Berlin, which should have the following three names: Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst (51) von Limburg, Archbishop Ludwig Schick (61), or Berlin's current General Vicar, Msgr Ronald Rother (67)

According to kreuz.net...

Friday, November 19, 2010

Old Liberals in Limburg Sense they are Junkers: Hurray for Bishop Tebartz

He's Tougher Than He Looks
These Limburger Tie-Priests have done nothing else their whole lives long, than attempt to destroy the Church.  Five minutes before their retirement they rebel one last time against their Bishop, who they fear, will institute necessary reforms.

(kreuz.net, Limburg) Ten hotheads from time immemorial, old Liberal pastors from the Diocese of Limburg have written and published a hate letter against their Bishop, Msgr Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst.

Their pamphlet was  eagerly awaited by the anti-Church media.

The Situation in the Diocese of Limburg is Catastrophic for the Old Liberals

Under the protection of Anonymity one of the snipers blusters from the website 'mittelhessen.de': "The situation in the Dioceese of Limburg is catastrophic.  The concern is monstrously large."

 The infamous Limburg Judas-Priest, Fr. Hubertus Janssen is using his full name to rail against his Bishop.

Fr. Janssen must not be afraid of anything.   For he is under the protection of particular powerful media bosses.

This 1st of December he will be 73 years old when he goes into retirement.

Days before his retirement he will not let "forbid his mouth from speaking" -- bragged 'mittelhessen.de'.

Even two critics, with names presented, are two or three years before their retirement. He had some days ago decried his Bishop for a German anti-Church magazine  and earned much applause.

It's a question of Pastor Albert Dexelmann (63) from Runkel in the vicinity of Limburg-Weilburg.  He opnly said that, "not much can happen" to him -- for he is also trusting in the potential outrage of the media bosses.

Our Health in the Body of Christ?

The hate letter against the Bishop swelled in emotions, strident vocabulary and painted in black and white.

Since Bishop Tebarttz-van Elst is leading the Diocese,  "heads are hanging low" -- is the lamentation.

Meaningful elements, "support our piety", even "our health in the body of Christ" are "everything is carried on in oblique in a very dicky [incompetent] and clandestine way"  -- horrify the church's enemies upon what is really laughable.

The letter excuses all possible groupings of their special hate:

-People in the community, who are seeking supposedly "spiritual guidance"

-the opportunistic people responsible in public life

-the anti-Church journalists and press

-decadent artists and intellectuals

-people who are hungry for the old Liberal version of the word of God

-young people, who want nothing to do with yesterday's old liberal soup

-Church tax papers and donors

The laymen -- which is put in quotes in the letter -- would feel, "that clerical scenes are created that leave them disturbed viewing it from the outside" --so hopes the mutineer.

Journalists and the Press, who earlier served the old Liberal Abortion-Bishop Franz Kamhaus as a court crier, will now experience an "absconding" churchman -- says the letter, although the naive Bishop Tebartz-van Else has already run into the knife of the Church-hate magazine 'Spiegel'.

The hate letter also says that the allegedly experienced minister  "who has had the idea put in his head" would, as if they notice, how the "clerical darkness" is leading priest candidates by the soul.

In reality the old Liberal darkness in the Dicoese of Limburg is the problem, because he hinders the principle errors of the Post-Conciliar past and sees that they are reformed and corrected.

Because of this fearful process of destruction from these uninsightful old Liberals, young priests today have inherited a difficult legacy.

Meeting the Devil Halfway

The self-loving preachers of hate care for themselves:  "Are we obsolete models?" -- they hit the nail on the head.

At the same time they call a worthy lLiturgy -- which is oriented on God -- "a Ritual of Self-Love":

"The Legionaires of Christ and the Society of Pius X expect to send us to the junkyard." -- explained the junker.

It isn't just then, "a little, short-term spiritual blooper to deal with", rather a "bitter, persistent problem" -- so the Bishop-hater correctly analyzes his own problem.

Pubescently, he declares for a "major network" he desires for socializing.

Finally they say again in their letter, incorrectly, gratuitously:  "The Legionaries of  Christ and the Society of Pius X are waiting, to junk us."

Monday, October 11, 2010

The Church Can't Make Mothers out of Fathers: Bishop van Elst Critical of Ephemeral Zeitgeist

The Bishop of Limburg found joyful words against woman's ordination, for celibacy and criticized the adaption of the ephemeral Zeitgeist.

[kreuz.net] Bishop Franz-peter Tebartz-van Elst stood critically against "commonly accepted proposals for modernization".

He explained this on the 1st of October for three journalists of the newspaper 'Nassauische Neu Presse' which was very hostilely inclined to the Bishop.

The Priest Functions as a Father

The Bishop spoke forcefully against the effort to the theologically impossible ordination of priestesses.

For: The priest has a father function within the community: "The Father is the Father, the Mother is the Mother."

The Church is then for that reason not in a position to ordain women priests.

Jesus had made men to be his Apostles, thereon the Church buttresses itself.

The question if women may be priestesses is no question of adequacy -- rather a question of the concrete pattern of Jesus.

In answer to a - stupid - request the Bishop explained that God loves women exactly as much as men. It is also important that women participate in the Church.

So he was occupied with a few positions concerning women.

Relative to the priesthood the Bishop was clear: "Those who are to become Priests, it is to say, they will be called by the Church."

There is no right, therefore, to be a Priest: "That doesn't just go for women, rather for men as well."


Journalists have Problems with Celibacy


The obligatory question about the abolition of celibacy was not answered so directly by Msgr Tebartz-van Elst:

"Many priests to live and are aware that they have then decided to devote their lives to God."

The Bishop contradicted the theory, whereon celibacy is a reason that today so few young men want to be priests.

He reproved the communities - and pastoral ministers, who have children and stay away even without celibacy.

"The reason for the priest shortage is much more in the secularization of life. Many people could imagine a life without God."


Secularization means Wordly


As a further reason for the priest shortage he identified lack of support, whereby the decision to become a priest can be hindered.

Thus he proposed: "We need evidence of Faith."