Monday, March 13, 2017

Archbishop Forte Lashes Out at Cardinals: "The Dubia Cast Doubt on Those Who Raised Them"

Symposium on Amoris laetitia, 9 March, 2017, San Salvatore in Lauro
(Msgr. Forte, 2nd from the left, Alberto Melloni, 2nd from the right.)

(Rome) Archbishop Bruno Forte, Pope-Servant during the two episcopal synods over the family, has attacked the four cardinals: Brandmüller, Burke, Caffarra and Meisner because of the Dubia (Doubts) they have submitted to the pope for the disputed post-synodal letter Amoris laetitia.

The Archbishop of Chieti-Vasto had been appointed by the Pope as the Special Secretary of the Synod. As such he played the little praiseworthy role in the preparation of the individual reports. In the first bishop's synod in the autumn of 2014, the controversial passages on homosexuality came from his pen in the interim report. At the beginning of May 2016 he revealed that he had received a special commission from Pope Francis for the preparation of the final report of the second bishop's synod in autumn 2015. The mission was to obscure the aims of the Pope with the Synod. For this reason, Forte would not mention the remarried divorced in the final report because it could arouse strong resistance. According to the papal commission, the resistance should remain as low as possible. He, the Pope, would then set the course for the remarried divorced.

On May 2, 2016, Forte, in the town theater of Vasto, explained  Pope Francis' order as follows:
"If we expressly speak of Communion for remarried divorced couples, who knows what kind of a casino [a whirlwind] this will make for us. We therefore do not talk directly about it. Make it so if the premises are given, I will draw the conclusions."
Forte was enthusiastic about the papal tactics. This is "typical of a Jesuit," commented Forte, jokingly, his revelation, praising the "wisdom" of Pope Francis, who had allowed us to reach Amoris Laetitia.

The Symposium on Amoris laetitia was in the Church of San Salvatore in Lauro

The Symposium was entitled, "The power of love in a society of indifference." This took place on Thursday in the Roman church of San Salvatore in Lauro, opposite the Castel Sant'Angelo. One of the speakers was Archbishop Bruno Forte, in his capacity as Special Secretary of the Bishops' Synod, whose "accomplishment" is the Apostolic Exhortation Amoris laetitia. Another speaker was the historian Alberto Melloni, head of the progressive "Bologna School."

Forte used his allotted time to attack the four reputable cardinals who expressed doubts (Dubia) and gave the Pope five questions on September 19, 2016, which the latter has refused to answer. According to Romasette, the online diocesan blog of the diocese of Rome, Archbishop Forte declared that the criticism of Amoris laetitia, "has no right to exist". Romasette reported:

A faithful interpreter of Amoris laetitia, who had experienced it at the Synod at close quarters, from which the apostolic letter came, namely, Monsignor Forte said: "The doubts raised (Dubia) raise doubts about those who raised them because they were present and experienced the collegial spirit for themselves. Amoris laetitia focuses on the crisis of the real family. The message is that despite the wounds and the failure, it is worthwhile support the family. So what is to be done? Love as God does. And how shall this attention be expressed for the wounded? With forgiveness, which is the great power of love."  Then Forte presented the proposals of apostolic writing: accept, accompany, discern and integrate. "The way of accompanyment has its summit in the Communion for the remarried divorced, which is a sign of obedience toward the mercy of God."

Archbishop Forte no longer knows in 2017 what he said in May 2016 

According to Archbishop Forte, Pope Francis implicitly did not have to answer the questions of the four cardinals because their concerns had "no right of existence". The failure to answer the questions and the lack of response to the concerns of the four cardinals was justified by Forte, because they had been synodalists, and had witnessed the "collegial spirit" of the Synod. The whole was garnished by Forte with polemical wordplay.

On the basis of the revelations of May 2, 2016, made by himself, Forte knew that the Synod had not made a statement with which the controversial passages of Amoris laetitia can be justified. The "collegial spirit" of the Synod is, therefore, unrelated to Amoris laetitia, and certainly not with the Dubia, which consists of five questions, which were asked to be answered by Pope Francis in order to end the ensuing confusion. "Only a blind man can deny that because of Amoris laetitia there is great confusion in the Church," said Cardinal Carlo Caffarra, one of the four signatories of Dubia.

Archbishop Forte obviously does not belong to the blind. On March 9, 2017, he does not even know anymore what he proudly proclaimed on May 2, 2016.

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Photo: Romasette (Screenshot) in the Church of San Salvatore in Lauro
Trans: Tancred
Link to Katholisches..


James said...

What a sleaze ball.

Anonymous said...

"The way of accompanyment has its summit in the Communion for the remarried divorced, which is a sign of obedience toward the mercy of God."

There we have it. Holy Communion is the source and summit of a life of unrepented mortal sin.

Anonymous said...

There are many heretics today in Catholic Church.
There are many heretics today who falsely 'represents' the Catholic Church today:
AL 297. "It is a matter of reaching out to everyone, of needing to help each person find his or her proper way of participating in the ecclesial community and thus to experience being touched by an “unmerited, unconditional and gratuitous” mercy. No one can be condemned for ever, because that is not the logic of the Gospel! Here I am not speaking only of the divorced and remarried, but of everyone, in whatever situation they find themselves..."

If this is not a first class heresy plus blasphemy, than I am already a saint one! (Which I am very certainly not [yet])
The question is, why do we not call them with the right name?! Heretics!

Anonymous said...

I am so tired of the lying coming from some of God's consecrated Bishops. Where is Archbishop Forte's conscience? The Holy Father and his men are setting the stage for a schism. What is all this propaganda being manufactured in Rome?

Archbishop Forte should see that he's defending the indiffensible; they have no regard for the faithful - insulting us, deliberate misleading, perpetuating falsehoods, attacking Faithful Bishops who seek to clarity on novel teaching, are not Acts of Love Archbishop. They are the traits of the Enemy of the Church and of humankind. You don't even need to have full information to discern that. The very avoidance of the facts and public disrespect of fellow bishops shows that.

What are you doing with God's children? We need to be called to repentance to inherit eternal life. Mercy requires truth and repentance Archbishop; submission to truth not skirting around the truth. No one is better off by obscuring the truth. No one is better off in a state of confusion. If you compromise one article of Faith; the whole fabric of the Faith unravels like Salt that loses flavour. That is discerned by a trying sinner like myself.

Anonymous said...

It's simple. The Pope is a heretic....Forte is a heretic. All those guys playing" big man" at that table are heretics as well. So are the Cardinals, Bishops, priests, and Roman Curia members who support Francis and company.
Let's face it, the TRUE Catholic Church is exactly what Ppe Benedict XVI predicted it would be....small outposts of tradition, traditional Orders of priests and nuns, the SSPX and similar movements(even if they are sede vacantist). Where Catholic tradition and the Tridentine Latin Mass is, there is the Church. Not with Francis, and his lackeys sitting at this table.
I wonder after 4 years if Benedict XVI regrets resigning. He should!
Damian Malliapalli

PaxTecum77 said...

"The doubts raised (Dubia) raise doubts", Correction Archbishop Forte, The Dubia ended the confusion for many which the heretics caused in the Church. Forte's words on God's Mercy is rather the false mercy which has its origins from satan. Forte fakes speaking for God but his evil designs are from hell. A good example of the Modernist heresy!

Anonymous said...

Forte gets his words and example from Francis. Therefore, if Forte's words has their origins and impetus from satan, how much worse is it for the same, and even more scandalous words coming from Francis. More and more, I think the resignation of Benedict XVI and the election of Francis was/is the work of satan trying to destroy the Church. The instrument of satan has been in office now for 4 years. Let us all hope on this anniversary that there is not a 5th next year to commemorate.
Damian Malliapalli

JBQ said...

The "Dubia" were necessary and common sense. There is a great deal of consternation over the acceptance of "fornicators, adulterers, and sodomites". As Thomas More noted before he literally lost his head, "silence connotes acceptance". If Francis will not explain the confusion, then he accepts it. Jesus the Christ did not preach that there was no sin. He told Mary the Magdalen to "go and sin no more". The current climate is one of "go and sin some more" because it is no longer a sin because the words of Christ "have evolved". Cardinal Burke was run out of Saint Louis and was very controversial. He was without a doubt "a bull in a China shop". Nevertheless, he is the "agent of truth". Francis is the "agent of deceit" and appears to be a heretic. If he cannot or will not clarify confusion, then silence connotes acceptance of the fact of his heretical status.

Anonymous said...

There do not exist words sufficiently negative to describe Jorge Bergoglio and all who support him.

A faithful, imperfect, abandoned spouse

susan said...

Forte is, always was, and always will be an irrelevant, flaming ass....and I mean that in every sense of the word. ...addled old queen.

Cassandra said...

That is not a very Christian thing to say! What would Jesus say?

Anonymous said...

Can you please tell me with concrete facts what the Dubia accomplished?

susan said...

"Whitewashed tombs!"
"sly fox"
and again, "Hypocrites!"
aaaand again, "Hypocrites!"
"blind guides"
"You fools and blind men!"
“You blind Pharisee!"
"...inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness."
"you serpents!"
"brood of vipers!"

Want more? a Bible.

Sometimes the Truth hurts and requires strong, accurate words. GROW UP, and start defending Christ, and His Bride against the ravenous wolves who deserve to be called exactly what they are.

susan said...

Hey 'Cassandra', just for the record....what words would you use for a creepy, pervert like this?

Would you defend this and defer to him because he wears a red beenie? I can't even imagine what Jesus would call him; I can't even imagine how many kids have seen this vile piece of pornography IN A CATHEDRAL (!); I can't even imagine how many souls this beast has led to hell.

Wake up...the war is upon us; they're gang raping the Bride and you're having a fit of the vapors because someone calls them what they are? 'Addled old queen' is too polite for the likes of this and his friend Forte.

Anonymous said...

Holy Church is in the desperate state She is in today precisely because of "charitable" Catholics like Cassandra above. Cassandra is a lovely classical name---and ironically a name of a prophet who spoke the truth plainly and was doomed not to be believed; perhaps our Cassandra above should have a name change to Polyanna, who sees and hears no evil. The time for the Victorian ladies's polite high tea is over; it is time for real men and women to fight for Christ and His Church.

susan said...

preach it brother.

Unknown said...

And the best method of fighting for the true Church is by not giving money to the fake one.

Seattle kim

Hello said...

Can you please tell me with concrete facts what the Dubia accomplished?