Friday, November 25, 2016

Don Nicola Bux Contradicts Pope Francis in the Liturgy Question: "The Traditional Mass is No Exception"

Don Nicola Bux
(Rome) Cardinal Raymond Burke, the eminent religious lawyer, does not hesitate tocontradict the assertion of Pope Francis, that the traditional Roman rite was "only an exception for nostalgics".  Also one of the most famous liturgists, Don Nicola Bux, raises his contradiction.
Since 10 November, the new Pope's book (Nei tuoi occhi è la mia parola) "My Word is in Your Eyes" in bookstores. In this interview book with the Pope's confidant, Father Antonio Spadaro SJ, Pope Francis addresses the Latin Mass:
"The Latin Mass? Only one exception. Pope Benedict has made a proper and generous gesture to accommodate a certain mentality of some groups and persons who are nostalgic and have distanced themselves. But it is an exception. "
This was contradicted yesterday by Cardinal Raymond Burke, one of the most renowned canon lawyers, referring to the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontifikum of Benedict XVI.
The Pope is also contradicted by one of the most famous liturgists, Don Nicola Bux. The interview was conducted by the Internet newspaper La Fede Quotidiana :
FQ: Don Nicola, is the traditional Roman rite an exception?
Nicola Bux: That's  not what  the Motu Proprio by Pope Benedict XVI says. Rather, one reads explicitly that the two rites have the same dignity. This is what the Pope writes, not me. Therefore, we can not say with the document at hand, that it is an exception, unless one wants to come to a conclusion which is directed against the pope's document.
FQ: Whence this "exception"?
Nicola Bux: I do not know. We are probably in the area of ​​interpretations, which, however, are not confirmed in the document of Pope Benedict XVI.
FQ: of the traditional Roman Rite: Many young people approach it recently with interest. Why?
Nicola Bux: I can confirm that there is a renewed interest, especially among young people. I am of the opinion that this has to do with the fact that there is a need for mysticism, a quality which the traditional rite preserves and encourages. Of course it can be said that this rite has no monopoly on mysticism, and it is also possible to celebrate  the traditional rite sloppily.
FQ:  Preaching: Can we say that it is a "political" statement, as Francis has asserted it?
Nicola Bux: This definition seems ambiguous and requires clarification. When it comes to reading the day-to-day readings of current affairs from the concrete life, it is legitimate to speak of politics. I would like to say: When one is immersed in the life of our time. The sermon, however, must not enter a directly into political life in the sense of party politics. Not that.
FQ: As a theologian: Are there divine penalties  around the polemics surrounding Father Cavalcoli? 
Nicola Bux: In the Scriptures, the Old and the New Testament, we find different moments in which there is an open question regarding  God's punishment. In the Gospel, for example, there is the episode of the Tower of Siloah and the massacres directed by Pilate. It can be concluded, "If you are not converted, you will perish in the same way." A natural catastrophe or violence by humans is not necessarily to be seen as a punishment for sin, because they involve innocent people, but as a reminder to do penance. Jesus has said it: the Father rains upon the good and bad. The point is that many think that God -- if He exists -- has nothing to do with their lives, though they promptly complain when a catastrophe befalls them, and ask where God was.
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
picture: FQ (Screenshot)
Trans: Tancred


Unknown said...

"Pope" Francis is completely out of touch both reality and with the Catholic faithful.

Unknown said...

I can't take this pope any more.

Anonymous said...

Another papal earthquake, oh... it's the Francis effect...

philipjohnson said...

Bergoglio is a mass of contradictions,ambiguity and ,just plain,buffooneryHe cannot be taken seriously at all.

Anonymous said...

I think Pope Francis may be the foolish shepherd described in Zechariah 11:16 -17 -

For behold I will raise up a shepherd in the land, who shall not visit what is forsaken, nor seek what is scattered, nor heal what is broken, nor nourish that which standeth, and he shall eat the flesh of the fat ones, and break their hoofs. [17] O shepherd, and idol, that forsaketh the flock: the sword upon his arm and upon his right eye: his arm shall quite wither away, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened. (my emphasis)

and here is an amazing parallel with an article on the Vatican Insider website: New study shows Man of the Shroud had “dislocated” arms:

This explains why “the right shoulder is lower than the left by 10±5 degrees” and The right eye is retracted in the orbit” because of the paralysis of the entire arm, the academics say.(my emphasis)

Also, with regard to Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI:

Here is a prophesy by Ann Catherine Emmerick as quoted and commented on by Yves Dupont in his classic Catholic Prophecy book - if you haven`t read it, recently.  It is amazing:

Comment: From this prophecy, it is clear that the true
Church will be faithful to the Pope in exile; whereas, the new
Pope in Rome will be, in fact, an anti-pope. But, since a
number of other prophecies tell us that the true Pope will die
in his exile, it follows then that the true Church will be lead-
erless for some time. Then, it is not difficult to anticipate what
the anti-pope and renegade hierarchy and clergy will say:
"See, your so-called Pope is dead; and who can give you a
new Pope now? Our cardinals have already elected the new
Pope, he is here in Rome." And, indeed, since the true Church
will be completely disorganized, and the faithful Cardinals iso-
lated, no new true Pope could be elected, and thus a large
number of Catholics will be misled into accepting the leader-
ship of the anti-pope. Such a schism could not happen if the
Pope followed A. C. Emmerick's advice "to stay in Rome".
"But", she said, "the Pope is still attached to the things of the
earth." And, as is said elsewhere, "He will want to save what
he thinks can be saved." In other words, the true Pope, who-
ever he is at that time, will use his human judgment and leave
Rome, instead of remaining firm in the face of the invaders.

Now that is prophecy!

M. Prodigal said...

The constant denigrating of the faithful by this pope is a scandal! Count me in as one of a 'certain mentality' then. A mentality that is consecrated and vowed.

Anonymous said...

When was Don Nicola Bux ordained?

Anonymous said...

Quo Primum was issued in 1570.
There was no need in the motu proprio or "Ecclesia Dei".
Do these men not have an understanding or knowledge of Roman Catholicism?

Aged parent said...

"the massacres of Pilate"? Did Father Bux mean Herod?

Anonymous said...

He was "ordained" in 1975.