Tuesday, January 19, 2016

Is There an "Organized Movement" Against Pope Francis?

Andrea Tornielli at the Presentation of his Interview Book "The Name of
God is Mercy" to Pope Francis
(Rome) Andrea Tornielli is considered in Rome as the House and Home Vaticanist.  He enjoys the privilege of having easy access to the leader of the Catholic Church. Before important initiatives, Tornielli is a regular guest in Santa Marta. His information comes firsthand. He also advises the Pope in matters of public relations and acts as its indirect mouthpiece. Yes according to plan and need, Tornielli announces in his articles steps the Pope takes or tries to give them an official interpretation in the face of criticism. This also includes, occasionally straighten out things.
In Argentina, the journalist Elisabetta Piqué, the Rome correspondent of the daily newspaper  La Nacion, takes a special position. The Pope's special friend has already published   her biography "Francisco. Vida y Revolución " (Francis. Life and Revolution)  about her compatriot on the papal throne before.
Both, Tornielli and Piqué, see their tasks as to put  the words and deeds of the Pope, medially, in a good light. They comply with this, albeit indirectly, especially in this pontificate where this is not a task to be underestimated.  Pope Francis is to remain a mystery. In fact, the mystery does not grow less in the passing of time.
Inconsistencies complicate interpretation of his thought and action. Tornielli's products are guaranteed to appear in the daily newspaper, La Stampa and the Internet portal,  Vatican Insider:  they reveal, whether expressly mentioned or not, the intention of the Pope.
The Tornielli interview in "La Nacion"
The Tornielli interview in "La Nacion"

Tornielli Interview for La Nacion

Elisabetta Piqué is now letting Andrea Tornieli have his say in La Nacion have his say. The reason for the interview was the conversation book recently published by Tornielli with Pope Francis "The Name of God is Mercy". Here, too, we learn some of what is thought in Santa Marta.
"For the organized sector, the Pope can't do anything right," says Tornielli in a citation in the title. "The renowned Italian Vatican expert, author of a book interview with Francis, is astonished at the systematic attacks of a conservative group against the Argentine Pope," writes Piqué.
In an interview Piqué and Tornielli also speak of  the criticism of Pope Francis.
Piqué: But in the past few months things have happened that one has never seen before, such as the letter of the 13 cardinals who wrote the Pope during the last Synod, who defied his authority and practically accused him of manipulation.
Tornielli: Like Paul VI.  who published the encyclical Humanae Vitae, there were articles with very severe criticism. But it is true, at the Synod, there was a moment of tension. And it seems to me that there is an organized movement, which uses all media, including the Internet, to spread discord and criticism of the Pope. What amazes me is that they find something to criticize every day.  In this movement, it does not really matter what the Pope  says or does. That surprised me a lot and this perseverance clearly points to a prejudice, because it has not taken into account what he actually says and does, when it does not fit into clichés.
Piqué: Can this daily critique of Francis, especially by blogs, who accuse him of being a populist, of being ambiguous,  desacralizing in matters of doctrine and the papacy, hurt him?
Tornielli: If the criticism is not right, but on the basis of prejudice when it is systematic, even ridiculous, because of their insistence and their instability, they turns in the end against those who express them.

Pope Francis informed about criticism

The interview confirmed that Pope Francis is aware of the criticism of statements and decisions about him. That was  apparent early on when Francis, on November 1, 2013, called the intellectually upstanding, but  one of his especially toughest critics, the Catholic law philosopher Mario Palmaro. Mario Palmaro was already suffering a serious illness, which he would succumb shortly thereafter.
The existence of an "organized movement" that "systematically" criticized Pope Francis may be a personal impression of Tornielli, but he did not reveal any evidence. It seems doubtful that the Pope's critics are  "all media."   In fact, it is believed, taking Tornielli's and Piqué's statements together, that just the "blogs" are responsible. The Internet, because of its free access, thus appears to be the only medium where criticism of the current Pope can be expressed. That says something about the medium of the Internet, but it says even more about the press and radio.
This is interesting,  as the Argentine Master of Ceremonies of the Pope, Msgr. Guillermo Xavier Karcher, said  for the first time in interview in April 2014  that the Pope reads a single newspaper, La Repubblica, and that it prepares a map for him of the daily press. But he neither reads the Internet nor could he use a computer.Curial Archbishop Claudio Maria Celli, President of the Pontifical Council for Social Communications, said on June 23, 2015 at the Europe Forum in Bilbao, the Pope had confided to him on 18 June in Santa Marta: "I know that there are many blogs against me."  It was a statement that he could only make from information provided by others. 

Tornielli All Inclusively Dismisses Criticism of Pope Francis  

Also, given  the assertions that the criticism of the Pope  was "not sincere", based on "prejudices" and was therefore "baseless," Tornielli states no example.
Specifically, the point in the interview is that there is only a general discrediting of any criticism of Pope Francis.
An "organized movement" against Pope Francis has not yet been determined for us. What concerns Katholisches.info, we can assure you,  is that we are  not on the lookout for acts of Pope Francis which could be criticized. We hold no contact with any group which forges  against Pope Francis or anyone else who intrigues in an "organized movement" of which we have not heard anything and we therefore attribute its existence to the imagination of Andrea Tornielli.
But as chief editor I will not deny, that sometimes I rise in the morning with the anxious thought about what the news of the Pope now holds. One would probably be exaggerating, if they wanted to say  you have won a very confident impression. Still less,  can we claim as the  Francis-worshipers do,   constantly seeking the Holy Spirit to play Him off against Tradition, Scripture and the Magisterium as needed.
But Tornielli and Piqué do not reveal what they criticize.
Unlike Tornielli and Piqué,  we are anyhow independent and impartial in our coverage, since we have entertain no close relationship to the subject of reporting  unlike Piqué, who has been friends with Francis for many years and who baptized her children, and unlike Tornielli, who has lived since 13 March 2013 with one foot in Santa Marta, and quite exceptionally owes this pontificate for his privileged position.
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Image: Radio Vaticana / Secretum meum mihi (screenshots)
Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
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Nicolas Bellord said...

Perhaps there should be an organised movement not against Pope Francis personally but to try and deal with the statements from him which have caused such confusion amongst honest Catholics trying to live their faith.

philipjohnson said...

I wish there was-the man is a disgrace to the Papacy and The church.

P.J.David said...

Exactly, an organised movement is a must not against thePope but to deal with the statements from him which are causing terrible confusion . The Cardinals, Bishops, Priests and true Catholic blogs have an urgent duty to act that the teachings of the Magistarium are upheld and condemn all heretical behaviour. The holy sacrifice of Mass and Rosaries are the powerful weapons we have that our Blessed Mother Mary will come to aid us in the battle. We will see definitely during this year 2016 a drastic action from heavens.

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Anonymous said...

philipjohnsonJanuary 20, 2016 at 3:42 AM - I totally agree with you.

Hieronymous Smith said...

Ah, welcome to the top-secret Knights of the Lost Ark of the Covenant. We systematically plot and organize world-wide opposition to Pope Francis. Headquartered in our impregnable ice fortress in Svalbaard, we hold weekly top-secret meetings there, connected with our members around the world--all of whose identities are top-secret--via Skype.

Hieronymous Smith, Knight Exultant of the Seventh League

Carl said...

Another live one!

Johnny Cure-dents said...

For humble people, the pope and his admirers certainly are sensitive to the least criticism of his actions and words. If I were a cynic, this might put me to thinking Pope Francis is a tad more worldly than we've been led to believe.

Hieronymous Smith said...

Now you must pretend you did not read my comment, as we are top-secret, you know.

Anonymous said...

The organised movement, when it comes, will be called "schism".

Sean said...

It's already here.

N.D. said...

Page 117, of the pope's book, On Heaven and Earth, in regards to same-sex unions
“If there is a union of a PRIVATE NATURE, THERE IS NEITHER A THIRD PARTY NOR IS SOCIETY AFFECTED. Now, if this union is given the category of marriage and they are given adoption rights, there could be children affected. Every person needs a male father and female mother that can help them shape their identity. - Jorge Mario Bergoglio
Approval of same-sex sexual unions is approval of same-sex sexual acts.

Why not tell those men and woman, who have developed a same-sex sexual attraction the truth? It is because we Love you, and respect your Dignity as a beloved son or daughter, that we cannot condone the engaging in or affirmation of any act, including any sexual act that demeans your inherent Dignity as a beloved son or daughter.The desire to engage in a demeaning act of any nature, does not change the nature of the act. We Love you, and because we Love you, we desire that you will always be treated with, and will always treat others with Dignity and respect in private as well as in public. We will not tolerate the engaging in or condoning of sexual behavior that does not reflect the upmost respect for the human person.

N.D. said...

To deny that God Is The Author of Love, of Life, and of Marriage Is to deny God, and makes one an apostate to our Catholic Faith.

John the Mad said...

What comment was that?

Anonymous said...

Yes, the schism is here and is called conciliar "Catholicism"---the new religion started at Vatican II, unrecognizable by most saints and true Catholics over centuries and promoted by perfidious popes and most clergy shamelessly ever since. RC

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Anonymous said...

Your confusion between Vatican II conciliar "catholicism" and the historical error of conciliarism have nothing to do with each other. So much for your pompous show of great learning of ecclesiastical history. You might do better practicing a few chords of "On Eagle's Wings" or "Kumbaya" (there are not too many chords in those infantile ditties) in whatever rectory you inhabit rather than pose as a great church historian. Meinrad

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JBQ said...

According to the writings of Malachi Martin, SJ, who died in 1999, there will be a future pope ("The Jesuits") who will destroy organized religion and who will create a new spiritual belief system based on world unity. He was also very specific in his continued description of an event early in the pontificate of Paul VI in regard to a Black Mass held in the Vatican. His warnings sound eerily like what is purported in The Third Secret of Fatima.