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Hardly anything has been leaked so far about the content of the conversation so far. The Union of Superiors General had announced soon that a summary by Father Spadaro will follow soon after. Pope Francis seems to have asked the Superiors for restraint to prevent uncontrolled reproduction of his statements by indiscretions.
Presented to the Pope Before printing
Each issue of Civilta Cattolica is checked prior to publication by the Vatican and provided with a printing license. Father Spadaro, who is not a Superior General, however, had been expressly called by the Pope to the conversation. In a pontifical mandate, he created the summary, it was sent before printing to the Pope personally for examination and received permission to publish this.
"When the Pope speaks freely and enters into dialogue, his remarks have a wave-like rhythm, which one must follow with care, because it feeds on the living interaction with his interlocutors," as Father Spadaro outlines. Unfortunately, the extensive summary of the Pope's words are not yet available in the German [Or English] version.
Religious Life is Prophetic Discipleship
In addition to the Pope lamenting the "novice trade" in the young churches with many vocations, in forming of "little monsters", which gave the Pope "the creeps", the pontiff spoke of the priority of religious life: "It is the prophecy the kingdom, which is not negotiable. The emphasis must be on to prophesy, and do not care to do only going through the motions Of course, the devil shows us his temptations and this is one of them: to act as if you prophets to be without it. But such things can not play. I myself have seen many sad things in this regard. "
The Pope exhorted the Superior Generals: "The Church must be attractive. Wake up the world. Be witness of a different kind of action, of action and of life." He continued: "It is possible to live differently in this world. We speak of an eschatological view, which has become the meat of values of the Kingdom here on this earth. It's about giving up everything to follow the Lord. No, I do not say radical '. The radical nature of the Gospel concerns not only the religious: it is demanded of all. The religious only follow the Lord in a special way, a prophetic way. I expect this testimony from you. "
Sin Yes, No Corrupt
The pope repeated a formulation that he already mentioned several times, the content is still difficult to understand. The Pope urged the superiors to take the sinner in the seminaries, but not "corrupt": "I'm not talking about the people who recognize themselves as sinners: we are all sinners, but we are not all corrupt. Accept the sinner, but not the corrupt ".
Charism is Always Fit to the Circumstances of Time, Place and People
Regarding the charism of the Founder of each Order, the Pope said: "The charism is always one thing, but as Saint Ignatius said, it must be lived according to place, time and people. The charism is not a bottle of distilled water. One must live powerfully, by reading it culturally anew. "In this context, the Pope called religious to action. It would be better to "make mistakes" than to do nothing. "We always have to ask for forgiveness and are ashamed of the apostolic failures caused by discouragement. Consider, for example, of the pioneering intuitions of Matteo Ricci which were dropped in his time. " The Pope was referring to the previous failed attempts at the Christianization of China. The Jesuit Matteo Ricci model was distinguished by special adaptability to the Chinese culture and mentality. For this reason it was controversial and was eventually discarded.
Two Jesuits as role models: Matteo Ricci and Superior General Pedro Arrupe
Pope Francis also came to speak about the "periphery", the "edges", a cipher priority of his pontificate: "I am convinced of one thing: the big change in history occurred when the reality came to be considered not from the center but from the edges. "In this context, the Pope mentioned yet another Jesuit, whose activity he cited as an example, the earlier, controversial Superior General, Father Pedro Arrupe, whom John Paul II urged to a premature resignation. Father Arrupe is considered one of the most colorful figures in recent history. Some worship him as a shining example, in the other he is regarded as one of the gravediggers of the Jesuit Order.
Two new documents: about the brothers and the relationship between bishops and religious
In his address the Pope announced that he had two documents in preparation: one on the appeal of the "brothers", that is the religious who are not priests, and the other on the relations between the bishops and religious, with which the document Mutuae relationis is to be replaced by the Congregation for Religious and Secular Institutes and Congregation for Bishops of 1978, which Pope Francis describes as "out of date".
2015 Year of Consecrated Life
The Pope also announced that he will proclaim 2015 the Year of Consecrated Life. An announcement that was greeted with "a long applause," said Father Spadaro. The Pope had then looked and said toJoão Cardinal Bráz de Aviz and Archbishop José Rodríguez Carballo with a smile to the Prefect and the Secretary of the Congregation of Religious: "It's their fault, the proposal comes from them, when the two meet, they are dangerous" which brought the General Assembly of the Superiors General to general hilarity, said Father Spadaro. The Brazilian Cardinal Braz de Aviz is a member of the Focolare Movement, Archbishop Carballo is Franciscan.
If the Vatican medicine is worse than the dreaded disease
The Vatican expert Sandro Magister recalls that both recently got into the headlines along with Pope Francis because of the severity with which they placed the Order of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, one of the most flourishing orders of the Catholic Church under provisional administration and banned the Order from celebrating in the Old Rite.
"This matter was not discussed in the talk of 29 November, except perhaps implicitly where Pope Francis said that conflicts in the community are unavoidable: in some ways it must happen if the community is really honest and loyal to relationships. But if the destructive approach of the provisional administration of the Franciscans of the Immaculate is seen - as it transpired from both parties to the conflict - one gets the distinct impression that the Vatican medicine is worse than the dreaded disease," said Master.
Sad State of Attire Among the Superiors General
The Catholic religious tradition is characterized by the diversity of religious charisms, which finds its visible expression in each particular religious robes. The dress code of the Assembly of Superiors General of Catholic Male Religious before Pope Francis, however, offers the dreary sight of utter monotony. Several superiors general seem to regard the habit only as an occasional option.
Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: Don Orione
image: Don Orione
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Will revise as needed.
" Pope Francis seems to have asked the Superiors for restraint to prevent uncontrolled reproduction of his statements by indiscretions."
Is this translation correct? Might it not say instead, " Pope Francis seems to have asked the Superiors for restraint to prevent uncontrolled reproduction of his indiscretions by statements?"
God help us all
The Pope needs to restrain his own production of statements.
Lynda, I couldn't agree more. Is there no one in the Vatican with the backbone to tell him to put a lid on it? Or doesn't anyone care? Or is this what they want - complete chaos in the Church? I'm at a loss to understand any of this anymore and line it up with what Our Lord said about the gates of hell not prevailing.
@Delphina: The promise of Jesus that the "gates of hell will not prevail against his church" means that there will always be those who hold the faith, even if they are reduced to a remnant. It does not mean that the hierarchy will never defect from the faith - remember during the Arian heresy 80% of the bishops did defect and embraced heresy!
If you feel the need to question Our Lord's promise ask yourself if it is because you objectively and unemotionally believe that the Church can defect entirely, or is it because you are personally embarrassed that the Church can be reduced to a state where the faithless make a mockery of it, and the faithful are rendered powerless and ridiculed?
If the first option applies to you, remember the prayer of the father of the dumb young man: "I do believe Lord - help my unbelief".
If the second option applies to you, you're not the first. You are scandalized that Our Lord would let the Church be treated in such a manner, and it hurts your pride to be a member of such a dysfunctional Church. I felt that way until I got over myself and realized that even I was in some way responsible for the sorry state of the Church. After all we are all sinners.
A more accurate gospel passage to apply to this situation is Our Lord's warning that his message would not bring peace but the sword:
"Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword. For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's enemies shall be they of his own household."
Isn't this a more accurate depiction of the current state of the church with catholics finally rousing themselves from a stupor and contesting the future of the church with those who consider themselves to still be catholic but actually are modernist heretics who are in need of repentance?
How many people have heard of Matteo Ricci? Below is an excerpt from my book on Italians of note. Do you know the answer? Leon J. Radomile / Heritage Italian-American Style
1714) Born in Macerata, Italy in 1552, Jesuit Matteo Ricci became the founder of the Catholic missions in another country. He was also responsible for introducing western mathematics there and became famous among these people for his extraordinary memory and for his knowledge of astronomy. *Identify the country. (Contributed by Marco Tedeschi, Mamaroneck, NY)
Nato a Macerata nel 1552, il gesuita italiano Matteo Ricci diventò fondatore delle missioni cattoliche in un altro paese. Lì egli introdusse la matematica occidentale e fu molto rispettato da questa gente per la sua straordinaria memoria e per la sua conoscenza di astronomia. *Dite di quale paese si tratta. (Alla redazione di questa domanda ha contribuito Marco Tedeschi di Mamaroneck, New York).
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