Thursday, August 23, 2012

Sister Lucia to Jesuit: "No, Father, Many, Many Are Lost"

This is the great error of the faith of the Conciliar age: "Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and few there are who go in thereat."
Dante und Virgil in der Hölle.
Gemälde des französischen Malers
 William-Adolphe Bouguereau (+1905).

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(  Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Müller -- the faith gardener of Benedict XVI. -- is of the opinion that there are only few in hell.  Writes the site of the Society of St. Pius X,  '' early in August.

Are Most "Individuals" in Hell?

The site pointed to Msgr Müller's rambling book "Katholische Dogmatic: für Studium und Praxis der Theologie".  It reads:

"Who, as many and indeed the generality of people, offers a radical resistance against love till death, escapes from our knowledge not only accidentally but in principle as well. We should however hope and pray that generally, every man comes to goal of the outreached desire of God's salvation."

And: "Humanity definitely comes in Christ to God as its only goal, may perhaps also remain at odds with God."

Jesus Christ:  Many will not succeed

This assertion from the Gospel contradicts Msgr Müller, where Mathew in Chapter 7: 13 says:  

"Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat.  How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!"

Or Luke, Chapter 12: 23-25:

"The life is more than the meat, and the body is more than the raiment.  Consider the ravens, for they sow not, neither do they reap, neither have they storehouse nor barn, and God feedeth them. How much are you more valuable than they? And which of you, by taking thought, can add to his stature one cubit?"

If the contentions of Msgr Müller true, then Christ would have had to say the following to '':

"Narrow is the gate and strait the path that leadeth to destruction, but hardly anyone finds it".

The idea of Hell is salutary

On page 562 Msgr Müller maintains that Christian theology perceived "the teaching of the eternity of the torments of Hell as the crux of the Gospel".

Actually '' shows, that that isn't true.

The salvific medications on Hell have led countless people to penance.

The greatest Grace of their lives

The website mentioned the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola (+1556).  There the consideration of Hell plays a very important role.

According to St. Ignatius it drives one on that "if I were to forget the eternal love of God because of my errors, the slightest fear of those punishments assist me in not falling into sin."

St. Theresia of Avila (+1582)  observed her vision of Hell as one of the greatest graces of her life.

In times of spiritual dryness the thoughts of Hell made more of an effective help against the selfishness in sin than the thoughts of the love of God.

In Fatima the Mother of God even showed little children Hell, in order to fill them with fervor to pray and do penance for the salvation of sinners.

Fearful Consequences

The site also mentioned the destructive influence, which the baseless assertions of Msgr Muller have on the salvation of souls.

Because:  "If the only people in Hell are a few human beasts like Hitler, Stalin or Jack the Ripper and that one may even hope for them, that they sing Hallelujah in the chorus with their victims, then the average man doesn't need to worry about his salvation."

The Church optimistic of salvation will be an instrument of the devil, that the sinner is deceived by this, and that he is actually in acute danger of falling into Hell.

 Such a Church makes it unnecessary to prove the present developments.

 But there's always the hope of salvation?

 The seer of Fatima, Sister Lucia de Jesus dos Santos († 2005) said in an altercation with the the salvifically optimistic Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi: "Father, there are many who are lost."

The Jesuit objected: "Sure, the world is a cesspool of vice and sin. But there's always the hope of salvation. "

The nun protested vigorously: "No, Father, many, many are lost."

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Anonymous said...

Lord, are there few that are saved? But he said to them: Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I tell you, shall seek to enter, and shall not be able. St. Luke 13:23-24

Those who are saved are in the minority. St. Thomas Aquinas

If the just man shall scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly man and the sinner appear? I St. Peter 1:18

Ah! A great many persons live constantly in the state of damnation! St. Vincent de Paul

Taking into account the behaviour of mankind, only a small part of the human race will be saved. Lucy of Fatima

So many people are going to die, and almost all of them are going to Hell! So many people falling into hell! Jacinta of Fatima

Countless hosts have fallen into Hell. Venerable Mary of Agreda

I had the greatest sorrow for the many souls that condemned themselves to Hell, especially those Lutherans. [...] I saw souls falling into hell like snowflakes. St. Teresa of Avila

A multitude of souls fall into the depths of Hell, and it is of the faith that all who die in mortal sin are condemned for ever and ever. According to statistics, approximately 80,000 persons die every day. How many of these will die in mortal sin, and how many will be condemned! For, as their lives have been, so also will be their end. St. Anthony Mary Claret

How many souls turn away from the road to glory, and go to hell! St. Francis Xavier

What do you think? How many of the inhabitants of this city may perhaps be saved? What I am about to tell you is very terrible, yet I will not conceal it from you. Out of this thickly populated city with its thousands of inhabitants not one hundred people will be saved. I even doubt whether there will be as many as that! St. John Chrysostom

The number of the damned is incalculable. St. Veronica Giuliani

I was watching souls going down into the abyss as thick and fast as snowflakes falling in the winter mist. Blessed Benedict Joseph Labre

If you wish to imitate the multitude, then you shall not be among the few who shall enter in by the narrow gate. St. Augustine

Anonymous said...

Throughout many generations, few are chosen. Origen

It is certain that few are saved. St. Augustine

There are a select few who are saved. St. Thomas Aquinas

There are few, not many, who enter in at the narrow gate and find the strait way to eternal life. Origen

So vast a number of miserable souls perish, and so comparatively few are saved! St. Philip Neri

The number of the saved is as few as the number of grapes left after the vineyard-pickers have passed. St. John Mary Vianney

The greater number of Christians today are damned. The destiny of those dying on one day is that very few - not as many as ten - went strait to Heaven; many remained in Purgatory; and those cast into Hell were as numerous as snowflakes in mid-winter. Blessed Anna Maria Taigi

The common opinion is that the greater part of adults is lost. St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori

Among adults there are few saved because of sins of the flesh. [...] With the exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned. St. Regimius or Rheims

Ah, how many souls lose Heaven and are cast into Hell! St. Francis Xavier

Taking into account the present development of humanity, only a limited number of the human race will be saved [...] many will be lost. Lucy of Fatima

All persons desire to be saved, but the greater part, because they will not adopt the means of being saved, fall into sin and are lost. [...] In fact, the Elect are much fewer than the damned, for the reprobate are much more numerous than the Elect. St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori

Shall we all be saved? Shall we go to Heaven? Alas, my children, we do not know at all! But I tremble when I see so many souls lost these days. See, they fall into Hell as leaves fall from the trees at the approach of winter. St. John Mary Vianney

Behold how many there are who are called, and how few who are chosen! And behold, if you have no care for yourself, your perdition is more certain than your amendment, especially since the way that leads to eternal life is so narrow. St. John of the Cross


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Aged parent said...

But what do you expect from the Guardian of doctrinal purity, doctrinal purity?

Anonymous said...

As a reprobate who know he heading for hell, is this truly my fault? I'm told by the world to seek pleasure without conscious, but what does God tells me? Nothing, what I get from a 3rd party entity is that he loves me personally, but I have no proof of this. They say the Bible are love letters from God, but they don't have my name on it. If I was a woman and did what the church ask toward a man on Earth. I would be called a stalker. I would be told he doesn't care about me. How? He doesn't even speak to you. by the way, my name is Raul

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Leo D. Lion said...

Jesus and St Faustina.. Read what He revealed to her... His instructions in order to tap onto His Divine Mercy.

Leo D. Lion said...

DIVINE MERCY Sunday... 2019.... Go to that Holy Place and worship Him as He instructed and taught us... The Chaplet of Divine Mercy. You'LL GO TO HEAVEN

Anonymous said...

I found a few errors in this article that you may want to correct. First you mentioned that the seer of Fatima, Sister Lucia dead an altercation with Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi. This is not the case; the original report was a conversation with a Fr. Lombardi in 1954, not Vatican spokesman Fr Federico Lombardi (born in 1942). Also, the comments about Archbishop Muller seem to misinterpret his point.
Please be careful when quoting the internet, it is a cesspool of Satanick trickery and slander.

Tancred said...

The anonymous author said it was Lombardi. Can’t imagine a Jesuit questioning God’s just punishments, can you? Are you omniscient, or is there some privileged information you have?

Cardinal Müller is a Liberation Theology exponent, and highly suspect, not shocking he would be ambiguous about the truths of the faith, would it?

Tancred said...

Funny how someone’s just interpretation, which hasn’t been corrected by the Garden Goat, btw, should be the cause of an accusation of slander and trickery, would it?