We’re all aware of chanceries 20 years ago harassing their indult parishes for not practicing NFP (because of an abundance of children, not a dearth). But, until you visit your first TLM parish, you could be fooled into thinking we had cured Down Syndrome because you don’t see those children at the Novus Ordo parishes. Does Jones think these people are genetically superior the way the homosexuals do?
Similarly, these parishes have historically shown no interest in Međugorje Pilgrimages nor TOB lectures. Is Jones underestimating the supernatural effects of the Mass which become most apparent when people leave and go back to dying their hair blue, contracepting, and acting like Jews?
Similarly, these parishes have historically shown no interest in Međugorje Pilgrimages nor TOB lectures. Is Jones underestimating the supernatural effects of the Mass which become most apparent when people leave and go back to dying their hair blue, contracepting, and acting like Jews?
And why is he still hung up on the bizarre notion that traditionalism is a divisive movement based in New York with its strings being pulled by Jews? Take a look at a map of Ecclesia Dei parishes and you’ll see a black hole in the New York Metropolitan area precisely because the Jews have let the hierarchy know they don’t want it. Only this year did the gay bishop of Brooklyn permit a Latin Mass parish (ICKSP) to be established and that coincided with prohibiting it in the two diocesan parishes that had it occasionally.
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For the Boomers, pointing out the correlation between rites of worship and belief is pissing on a third rail the way acknowledging the existence of a JQ was for their fathers. All Boomers? Of course not, that would be a category error. We all know Boomers who wouldn’t go near a TLM who, nevertheless, are praying in front of abortuaries every week. Many of these people blew their life’s savings on a trip to Međugorje and they love talking about taking a century to unpack the mysteries of TOB like George Weigel’s pet parrot.
Lex orandi, lex credendi
What do schismatic societies have to do with John 10:7-10? What does the Novus Ordo have to do with apostasy? What does the Eponymous Flower have to do with stilted Jansenism?
ReplyDeleteThe stuff Jones is spouting about Traditionalists sounds remarkably similar to the cr@p his estranged partner David Wemhoff has been saying on his YouTube channel.
ReplyDeleteAckschually, learning about Liturgical Jansenism provides a lot of insight into what eventually happened at Vatican II and how those vile and heretical aesthetic minimalists wanted to strip the altars and throw the statues in dumpsters.
ReplyDeleteIt’s ironic that the Jesuits who won out in the 19th century later embraced Liturgical Jansenism combined with their own moral laxism and nominalism.
It’s interesting that they discussed Jones’s book “Slaughter of the Cities” the inspiration for Jack Cashill’s book on White Flight from Newark: “Untenable.”
ReplyDeleteThe thesis of Jones’s book wasn’t based on data he pulled out of his ass! While researching his biography of Cardinal Krol, he was given access to the Philadelphia archdiocese’s archives.
By contrast, his utterances about traditionalists and the Latin Mass are developed from false base premises that any homeschooled 8th grader should be able to refute. He clearly should stick to topics he has an interest in because he has no interest in this one!
Two principal events have shaped Dr. Jones' opinion on the Latin Mass issue.
ReplyDeleteThe first was a debate he had with the late Michael Davies. The Welsh gentleman played with him like a cat with a mouse until Christopher Ferrara stepped in and ripped his head off. To this day, he still says he won the the debate. Ask him where you can watch it and he'll just direct you to his article and say it was never filmed. FWIW, Keep-the-Faith gives away a DVD of the debate to new subscribers who, years later, come away thinking he was just a paid shill brought in to be defeated.
The second event was his encounter with the people at Michael S. Rose's Cincinnati parish Olde St. Mary's in the gentrified Over-the-Rhine district. There was tension between Jones and Rose over the latter's book "Goodbye, Good Men." Jones felt Rose was being played by those who sought to undermine the Church's moral authority as they desired a preemptive war with Iraq. Jones asked the congregation "Why don't you move here and build a community?" He concluded they wished to remain in the suburbs and hold on to their pistols because of a "fear of the nigger." In fact, the Mass at Olde St. Mary's was as fake & gay as a post-war suburban Levittown. It was the "reverent Latin Novus Ordo", introduced by the tradition-hostile Absp. Pilarczyk as a bait & switch to traditionalists. It could appeal to snooty intellectuals like Wm. F. Buckley but had nothing communal nor organic in its substance. To wit, it was designed to fail.
I tolerate Dr Jones’ ignorance on the Latin Mass issue. We have plenty of people writing on this.
ReplyDeleteHe has tackled the Jewish question with a courage not seen since Irish priests like Coughlin and Fahey. We can count very few traditional priests with courage since then.
The ad-Orientem Latin Novus Ordo Mass as seen at Old Saint Mary in Cincinnati, and Old St. Mary in Greenville, SC is what Cardinal Ottaviani had in mind when he wrote The Ottaviani Intervention. Had he seen the typical Novus Ordo Mass of today, at that point, he would've had a heart attack!
ReplyDeleteEcclesia Dei groups have been celebrating at the expense of former indult communities. Brennan is a Fag and you've reported it before.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Did Jones take the Covid vaccine? Pope Francis said you were lower than Whale Shit if you didn't.
ReplyDeleteAsking for a friend.