Wednesday, April 13, 2016

But What if the Pope Does What Protestants Have Been Accusing Him of Doing For Five Hundred Years and He Contradicts the Gospels?

Edit: does this mean we have to give Babette's Feast a five star rating on Rotten Tomatoes?  If the Bergoglian Magisterium contradicts perennial Catholic teaching and even Christ Himself, then what?

Amoris Laetitia is "non-magisterial"? Not so fast ... 

The following piece was written exclusively for Rorate by a wise -- and very informed -- holy priest who felt compelled to speak out: 

By Father Ignatius
The contents of Amoris Laetitia -- and its approval -- through omissions and coded language, of sacraments for the divorced and remarried, I suppose, came as no surprise to any of us. Over the past three years, Francis repeatedly announced his determination to find a way for this radical change, so we were all conditioned to expect the sound of the explosion when it finally came. 

Nor did most of the critical reactions come as a surprise. Writers like those whose posts immediately appeared onRorate (de Mattei, Socci, Confitebor) denounced the phony, modernist doctrinal/pastoral distinction in the document for the shell game it is. 

What did cause surprise, however, was Raymond Cardinal Burke’s commentary on Amoris Laetitia that appeared in theNational Catholic Register. Given the strong language that the good and esteemed cardinal had previously used to warn against a change in church teaching and practice on sacraments for the divorced and remarried, we all expected him to come out against the document like a Leo rugiens.

22 comments:

  1. He is addressing issues in the postmodern vernacular as it pertains to the great riddle. You can trace mere opinion and humanism beyond Vatican 2. What is real is that since the Counter-Reformation the Jesuit Church has been kowtowing with Protestants. Do you think that you will hop off at the last minute before the Pontiff becomes the Antichrist? You Sedevancatists are blinded by idealism with the Latin mass as bait. There is now the ends of the past spiritual crises means; whether culminating the events of history, or a final sweep at the spirit of the 60's, at least in this incriminate of history.

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    1. No, he's been thoroughly subsumed in the vocabulary and convictions of a committed Neo-Marxist, which only has something to do with Catholicism, if you reject all that Catholicism has ever taught.

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  2. I don't understand how Burke can say Amoris Lætitia is not magisterial when Francis himself calls it an "apostolic exhortation." Why would Francis call it an "apostolic exhortation" if he didn't intend it to be treated as a magisterial document?

    Burke's argument against Amoris Lætitia is quite weak. He said, in seeming servile obedience to Francis, that Amoris Lætitia isn't magisterial because Francis apparently said it wasn't, despite Francis calling it an "apostolic exhortation."

    A much better argument one could advance would be:

    1. Nothing of Magisterium can lead the faithful into error.
    2. Amoris Lætitia leads the faithful into error.*
    3. ∴, Amoris Lætitia is not of the Magisterium.

    *(esp. ch. 8's abuse of St. Thomas to normalize mortal sin)

    {I think people get confused with the fact that not all Magisterial pronouncements are infallible (or "irreformable," as one First Vatican Council father preferred to call it). What this means is that not every magisterial pronouncement is set in stone; however, no magisterial pronouncement can lead the faithful into error, even if the pronouncement is provisional / speculative / tentative.}

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  3. The huge problem with Cardinal Burke's argument about AL not being magisterial, is that the same argument could be used against JPII's Familiaris consortio. If FC is magisterial, why is AL not? And if AL is not magisterial, why is FC?

    I would say that the main reason why AL should be rejected by Catholics is that it does not present the doctrine of the Church and Holy Scripture in the same sense and with the same understanding that the Church has always understood it.

    We cannot go on pretending that diametrically opposed philosophies are in continuity with one another. It is a lie which can only serve the father of lies.

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    1. I wish he'd pull a Marcel Lefebvre and just out with it.

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    2. You're right. AL is a magisterial document that contains heresy. There is no way around it.

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  4. Fellay weeps and he's hailed as a saint! He has an entire congregation supporting him, plus his family was rich, he doesn't answer to pope francis for his living, and he gets a pass. Yet Burke who's completely dependent on Francis gets criticized for stating the party line.

    There's gonna be a bunch of people in hell, but not because VC2 contradicts Jesus now. This is the latest in an apostasy that's been going on for 50+ years. As Chaput and Shonborn have said this has been goin' on for SOME time now (just like washin of women's feet).

    This is the reporting on the Conservative, EWTN Catholic Register:

    “We ALL KNOW MANY priests”, he said, who admit remarried divorcees to Holy Communion “without discussing or asking, and that’s a fact.” He added that it is “difficult to handle for the bishop,” and said he was “very happy” that the Pope in the document takes up the controversial approach he has adopted in Vienna.
    "This involves what he called “five attentions” made to remarried divorcees: a series of five questions the priest must ask to see how merciful and correctly they have behaved before, it can be inferred, they are able to receive Holy Communion. They include how they treat the children of their first marriages, how they treated their abandoned spouse, and how they dealt with unresolved hatred.
    With this approach, the sacraments “come into another light,” he said. “It’s about the way of conversion.”

    http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/video-cardinal-schoenborn-amoris-laetitia-needs-serious-theological-discuss/


    "Happily, the kind of pastoral discernment called for in Amoris Laetitia is ALREADY HAPPENING in MANY of our parish communities, and the Holy Father’s encouragement, coming just months after the World Meeting of Families, is a great gift." [chaput who buried mother angelica]
    http://catholicphilly.com/2016/04/news/local-news/archbishop-chaput-thankful-for-popes-thoughts-on-marriage-family/

    Is this happening? Yes!
    http://canonlawblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/cuomos-concubinage-and-holy-communion.html

    http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/1/12/watch-gay-dads-baptize-their-daughter

    http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2016/04/cologne-questions-of-ecumenical-funeral.html

    http://www.advocate.com/religion/2015/9/26/out-and-making-his-mom-proud-mo-rocca-opens-pope

    http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/cardinal-will-celebrate-lgbt-mass

    http://lesfemmes-thetruth.blogspot.com/2010/07/bishop-dolan-cheers-gay-groups-at.html

    Now the "conservative" knights of columbus are being shook down to pay for the mcarrick, cnn sodomite CRUX:
    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/crux-partners-with-knights-of-columbus-94110/

    Why don't you all protest? Not in a blog but somewhere that will cost you something--like in your own family and your local church? Burke, like Vigano (and many others), have already been fired from their positions. Why don't you all do something that costs you something (like the guy who cut down Mary Poppins & got fired and prosecuted)-- instead of saying we'll join SSPX when it becomes part of Francis heretical sodomite adulterous cancerous church!

    http://www.latintimes.com/carlo-maria-vigano-fired-pope-francis-replace-us-vatican-ambassador-who-set-kim-davis-375137

    http://www.omaha.com/columnists/kelly/kelly-with-a-pair-of-bolt-cutters-and-sense-of/article_6b73936c-9e2b-5ba4-8e19-cc9518c219ca.html#.VuM_y-I-j4w.facebook

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    1. The International March for Life will be taking place in Rome on Sunday May 8th. It might be possible to form a subsection of that march which diverts off to Casa Santa Marta with banners and posters which call for Bergoglio's resignation. How many people do you think would be up for "making a mess" outside the Pope's house? I can't think of any other way that the laity and lower clergy could do something which made them take notice.

      Come to think of it, the march wouldn't even need to divert to CSM as it is due to finish in St Peter's Square with Bergoglio's Angelus. All we would need to do is get in and co-opt the march!!

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    2. That's BISHOP Fellay. It'd be a shame if every post I ever saw like this got deleted.

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  5. Fellay is the oonly one who is really Catholic....he and the SSPX are the only Catholics left. I wish they would goone step further, and because of this filth from Francis and his crew....establish a new Vatican and install a temporary "Pope", until the true Vatican and Papacy returns to the traditional Faith.
    I do not, and will not obey or follow Francis. And I know of many, many young Catholics who because of this letter and other things no longer have respect for this Pope...or for people who know better...but nevertheless tow the party line.

    Damian Malliapalli

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    2. Remove all you like, the toxic young sede-Gupta is full of it and so are you for giving him all the space you do.

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    3. Don't agree he's the only one, Bishop Williamson is truly Catholic.

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    4. No Allyson Anderson for me!!!April 14, 2016 at 4:35 AM

      Damian is correct. And as far as Williamson goes... he lacks prudence, obedience and wisdom. No serious Catholic with half a wit could follow someone who consistently displays such a lack of grace and charity as has that man. So give it up. Trying to make a hero out of Bishop Williamson is no different than Rome denying all the facts about their hero John Paul II and trying to make him out to be a saint.

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    5. Bishop Williamson simply lacks the world's approval and ecclesiastical preferment. It's not a bad spot to be in from the POV of eternity.

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  6. God in heaven have mercy on us! Save your people from Pope Francis! Deliver us from Francis the Terrible! Help us before he destroys Your Church!

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    1. The only way the crisis in the Church will end is when the Third Secret of Fatima (I.e. the exact words of Our Lady which follow: "In Portugal, the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved...") is publicly revealed, and 2) when the Holy Father in union with all the bishops of the world consecrates Russia - and ONLY Russia - to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

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  7. That diabolical disorientation is catchin'.

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  8. What do you mean "what if"??

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  9. It is wrong placing private revelation above sacred tradition and sacred scripture.

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