Tuesday, January 19, 2016

Something to Consider About Pope Francis

[Father Hunwicke] Like most readers, I rarely or never feel quite sure what our Holy Father actually means. Added to this is our natural inclination to treat with respect whatever a Roman Pontiff says (even when he speaks in a low Magisterial register). Accordingly, I am unwilling to join in the widespread criticisms of statements like his homily yesterday (Monday), in which he spoke about accepting new teaching, or 'surprises', from the Holy Spirit, 'new wine', and such things.

But I will remind you of something which we know we are bound to believe because it is the dogmatic teaching of an Ecumenical Council (Vatican I), worded with clarity.

"The Holy Spirit was not promised to the successors of Peter so that, by his revelation, they might reveal new teaching,

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20 comments:

  1. There is a plan not to say anything against dogma or doctrine, but to undermine it by skirting around the issues, as he did in the Lutheran Church video on protestant communion in the Catholic Church

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  2. There is a plan not to say anything against dogma or doctrine, but to undermine it by skirting around the issues, as he did in the Lutheran Church video on protestant communion in the Catholic Church

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  3. Pius IX, pray for us.January 19, 2016 at 7:00 AM

    There was no teaching, dogmatic or otherwise from that phony council. The above quote came out of the FIRST Vatican Council under Pope Pius IX.

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  4. Fr.Hunwicke, my favourite Catholic priest from UK, God bless him.

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  5. I doubt if theis buffoon Pope francis, or any of his lackeys care one thing about past Councils of the Church other than Vatican II, and therefore will disregard everything all the other Councils stood for in order to bring about their "surprises of the Holy Spirit".

    More and more, I belive that there will be a revolution in the Church against Francis, his agenda, and his supporters. In a nation, it is called a revolution. In the Catholic Church, it will be called a Schism. But it is a revolution all the same.
    But in the end, the True Faith will triumph. Francis will be dead during the battle....and most of his associates will be driven into humiliating exile from their positions of power.
    Francis might think he is all powerful now, and can denigrate those who cherish the Truth of Catholic Faith all he and his people like.
    But there is a wind coming, a reaction from True Catholics, that will blow Francis , his agenda, and his people out of office.
    Francis will either resign like a coward, or be so shocked by the backlash, that he'll suddenly just die.
    Damian Malliapalli

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    1. God help you Francis is walking in thr steps of Jesus

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    2. Right, if Francis and all his radical associates are walking in the steps of Jesus, then I;m going to be elected the next President of the USA in November.

      Damian Malliapalli

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    3. Please, invite me on the election's day, I'll support you.

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  6. Rev Hunwicke is refreshingly unambiguous on the Pope in his latest post:

    19 January 2016

    "Sedevacantism ...
    ... and references to our Holy Father as the "Apparent Pope" or the "Copope" or anything similar, I will not enable. Popes have been heretics before, but they did not thereby cease to be popes, even though condemned by an Ecumenical Council and/or anathematised by their own successors. Sedevacantism is nonsense. Not that, even on the most pessimistic analysis, Pope Francis has actually quasi-Magisterially taught heresy. What I'm saying is that if he did, he would still not cease to be pope. This has been, and will remain, the constant policy of my blog.

    Readers who doubt whether I know what I'm talking about could try reading a well-argued series on this subject which Bishop Williamson put on his blog two or three months ago.

    Or is he, also, a cryptomodernist?"

    Posted by Fr John Hunwicke

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  7. The Faith is been undermined at a Pastoral level ,Doctrine will exist only on paper ,not in practice.

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  8. Yes, Bernie, Francis is "walking in the steps of Jesus" trying---foolishly---to eradicate each of them. He is the classic iconoclast: a destroyer of all that preceded him and his huge ego, an ego and arrogance too large for the universe to contain. Marcello

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    1. A lot of bombast there, Marcello. Show in clear detail where Pope Francis, you assert, is destroying 'all that preceded him' then maybe you will establish credibility beyond your own self-referencing.

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    2. The only bombast lies in your denial, Sean, of what any decent, honest and sane human being can verify for himself at every step: the relentless demolition of the liturgy by rendering vulgar and banal; the empty seminaries and convents (except for the traditional ones); the sneaky subversion of morality and doctrine by this infernal pope; the vicious attacks on the orthodox faithful by the same "pope of mercy"; and the list goes on. You do not see it because you are dishonest and possibly in bad faith. You will have to render an exact account, as all of us will. Terrence

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  9. "Like most readers, I rarely or never feel quite sure what our Holy Father actually means", Father Hunwicke

    What Pope Francis means is to move towards ecumenism. He is working not to a missionary Church but an ecumenical one. The great prostitute of the Apocalypse. Since ecumenism lacks logic, his statements are difficult to understand. Everything is relativistic.

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    1. Anon 10:08 AM, you're shooting blanks:

      “The pope's insistence on the priority of mission flows from the Second Vatican Council's Decree on the Church's Missionary Activity. It states, "The pilgrim Church is missionary by her very nature. For it is from the mission of the Son and the mission of the Holy Spirit that she takes her origin, in accordance with the decree of God the Father." Mission then is the mission of God. Jesus, God's missioner, tells his followers, "As the Father sent me, so I send you." The mission of God, therefore, is—or should be—the Church's highest priority. Or, as is often stated, the Church does not have a mission; mission has a church" (Editorial from Maryknoll Missionaries website.)

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    2. Religious indifferentism is the Chirch's present de facto state.

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    3. Tancred, that's your personal unsubstantiated assertion not supported by evidence that would persuade otherwise.

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    4. Lol, there's plenty of evidence for anyone who isn't blind or basically evil.

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    5. Don't be coy, Tancred. Show the evidence without implying blindness or lack of goodness in those who would ask for proof to back up your assertion.
      It's precisely this kind of circular argument which Ross Douthat has recently argued in the NYT is a major flaw in the apologetics rolled out by the Conservatives. It persuades none but the weak of mind and the easily led.

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    6. Could "Ben" and "Sean" above be a reincarnation of our old subversive "Gabriel"? I suspect so. Citing the editorial from a Maryknoll journal---once a great order, especially in China, but now a desolate place of heresy and Marxism---is ample proof of who this person is. He should be writing his absurd, vague and heresy-white-washing puffery in "America" magazine or the "National 'Catholic' Reporter," which just recently nominated a gay couple as Catholics of the year for being the litigants in the recent case before the Supreme Court that legitimized sodomite "marriage." Robert

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