Wednesday, December 9, 2015

Heretical Cardinal Says Pope is Heretical Too

PARIS, December 9, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – In an interview this morning, Cardinal Peter Turkson, president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, said that Pope Francis “has called for a certain amount of control of birth,” while specifying that this would not include methods like the birth control pill.

Speaking to the BBC outside of the climate change talks in Paris, the cardinal suggested that limiting births can “offer a solution” to difficulties such as water and food shortages that are said to come from overpopulation and climate change.

"The amount of population that is critical for the realisation of this is still something we need to discover, yet the Holy Father has also called for a certain amount of control of birth."

Cardinal Turkson, described by the BBC as the Vatican expert on climate change, said while the critical level of population remains to be determined, the pope has nevertheless called for control of births.



https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-cardinal-claims-pope-called-for-birth-control-suggests-it-as-soluti

13 comments:

Catholic Mission said...


Latin Mass Societies' Mass is heretical
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/latin-mass-societies-mass-is-heretical.html


The present traditional Latin Mass is modernist
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/the-present-traditional-latin-mass-is.html

Aged parent said...

The cockroaches are really coming out of the woodwork now. Turkson is a disgrace not only to the Church, but to humanity.

Jim Donovan said...

Could you please explain why this is bad? The Church does recommend Natural Family Planning, and NFP is about spacing births. Unless I am missing something, this appears to be what Cardinal Turkson is recommending.

Tancred said...

Don't you want to breed like rabbits so we can warm up the planet and increase the amount of arable land in Canada and Siberia?

Thumper said...

NFP is absolutely only to be used for short term on extreme cases such as a woman who just came through a very rough pregnancy and could not physically handle another one too quickly. Unfortunately, that inch has become a mile with many Catholics who use it as contraception thus THWARTING God's plan. That is disgraceful.

Lynda said...

People have been reeducated over 50 years to think they have a right to determine when and when not to become pregnant in defiance of God's authority and providence.

Lynda said...

The false and wicked idea of "overpopulation" is adirect affront against God and His Holy Commandments. This is not Catholicism. It is even against the Natural Law. When man puts himself before God, he loses all reason.

Anonymous said...

There's big money in birth control.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/federally-funded-catholic-relief-services-paid-future-obama

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/05/429641062/fact-check-how-does-planned-parenthood-spend-that-government-money

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/religious-order-founded-by-st.-john-bosco-pushes-masturbation-and-condoms-i

https://veneremurcernui.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/caritas-supports-un-fund-for-contraception-abortion/

That's why 94% of the bishops at the synod voted that parents can't opt their kids out sex ed: (Pervert VC2 fairies need to get their lifestyle funding and pedophile kicks somewhere).

http://voiceofthefamily.com/94-of-synod-fathers-voted-against-parental-rights-at-synod/

But parents can opt their children out of religion class (again so the bishops can get state funds!!!!!)
Catholic Archbishop of Dublin Dr Diarmuid Martin has said parents who do not wish their children to partake in religious education have a right to see their wish respected.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1207/751896-embargo-archbishop/
No conversions in Catholic Schools!
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/11/pope-francis-orders-no-conversions-in.html

Same w/"refugees" -- how much money are these bishops raking in while they destroy our countries w/their refugee resettlement programs (that are SOOOOOOOOOO CATHOLIC!)? These scribes and fairysees and their whole industrial hospital, nursing home, death and resettlement complex are playing the media and the gov't all the way to their Mass Avenue penthouses.

http://capitalresearch.org/2015/07/refugee-resettlement-the-lucrative-business-of-serving-immigrants/

Jim Donovan said...

At this point, because of the current common and universal teaching of the Church which recommends NFP as unexceptional, it strains credulity that what you say can be true and the church be indefectible.

To me, what you say makes sense, but it is NOT what the church is actively teaching. I have always approached this matter as a difficult teaching, because I cannot see how NFP is essentially different than birth control, and furthermore it seems to hold the position you have slides into obstinate doubt given the contrary positions apparent catholicity.

Tancred said...

What is the universal teaching on NFP? That is is meant for certain grave reasons and not as a form of birth control?

Jim Donovan said...

Is it? Apparently not! When I did my pre-marriage retreat day in my local ArchDiocese the "retreat" was 4 talks, 2 of which were advertisements for NFP, neither of which mentioned that it was for grave reasons and not as a form of birth control. The Church does not teach this latter view. And if the latter view is correct, then the established church is teaching sin and Christ's promise is a lie or so obscure as to ostensibly be a lie.

Tancred said...

I've seen advertisements for at the Archdiocese for the satanic CCHD which promotes the use of artificial contraception, too. What's your point?

LeonG said...

One heretic recognises another - QED