tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post6000949143967244348..comments2024-03-28T02:22:35.857-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Pope Raises Armenian Saint to Doctor of the ChurchTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-9817368763974758112015-04-18T14:28:15.989-07:002015-04-18T14:28:15.989-07:00An excellent work on the Armenian genocide is Bjer...An excellent work on the Armenian genocide is Bjerknes's freely-available <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20111105133909/http://www.jewishracism.com/Jewish_Genocide_Enlarged.pdf" rel="nofollow"><i>The Jewish Genocide of Armenian Christians</i></a>.Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-90530646259435408672015-02-25T09:49:16.406-08:002015-02-25T09:49:16.406-08:00The Latins and Armenians seemed to get along well ...The Latins and Armenians seemed to get along well enough during the Crusades.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-14589040258555095982015-02-25T09:10:36.104-08:002015-02-25T09:10:36.104-08:00Yes, but there were Chalcedonian elements in the A...Yes, but there were Chalcedonian elements in the Armenian Church at this time.<br /><br />I'm not very familiar with Gregory of Narek, but I have read at least one account that indicates that he himself was in fact Chalcedonian in his theology. I think what's needed is a close examination of his writings, and not just the nominal Christological position of the Armenian Church at that time. Are there, in fact, heretical statements by Gregory of Narek? <br /><br />I sure hope not. Athelstanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346012062816580296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-18147738722282682842015-02-25T07:41:53.462-08:002015-02-25T07:41:53.462-08:00Tartar, if you've never read read her before, ...Tartar, if you've never read read her before, do yourself a big favor and start. Especially of good note is her section titled "The One About...", and of special note in that section is this one....<br /><br />http://www.barnhardt.biz/2013/11/23/the-one-about-the-science-of-the-immaculate-conception-and-assumption-of-the-blessed-virgin-mary/<br /><br />Pure, distilled, crystalline BEAUTY. God bless.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742800352247658277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-80622770107661207892015-02-24T21:39:14.123-08:002015-02-24T21:39:14.123-08:00I invite people to consider my ruminations and que...I invite people to consider my ruminations and questions and hope that faithful and acute theological minds consider them as well. I do admit that I am confused as to factually what has happened and what has not yet but is going to happen.<br /><br />https://opuspublicum.wordpress.com/2015/02/24/some-remarks-on-st-gregory-of-narek-and-eastwest-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-1288AEDGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-14115048418221928192015-02-24T20:31:06.313-08:002015-02-24T20:31:06.313-08:00Thanks for that link Susan, that really helped me....Thanks for that link Susan, that really helped me.Tartarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-90279908595943069132015-02-24T11:44:10.395-08:002015-02-24T11:44:10.395-08:00Actually, no oriental orthodox are nestorian. That...Actually, no oriental orthodox are nestorian. That's only the Assyrian Church of the East, which isn't oriental orthodox. <br /><br />O.O. are miaphysite, and have never been monophysite as they have been accused of. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-19336358615437045362015-02-24T11:39:16.228-08:002015-02-24T11:39:16.228-08:00Here's a REALLY informative post by the great ...Here's a REALLY informative post by the great Joan of Arc of our time....<br /><br />http://www.barnhardt.biz/<br /><br />The situation is actually WAAAAY worse than even Alex has hinted at. God have mercy on us....I pray everyday that he stops the insidious beatings of the flock by the rotten, ravening wolves in charge of His temple. <br /><br />"Lord, how long shall the wicked, how long shall the wicked triumph?<br /><br />How long shall they utter and speak hard things? and all the workers of iniquity boast themselves?<br /><br />They break in pieces thy people, O Lord, and afflict thine heritage."<br /><br />Maranatha Lord.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742800352247658277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-41337823844408275862015-02-24T11:35:16.044-08:002015-02-24T11:35:16.044-08:00I think that's the key phrase there, "wha...I think that's the key phrase there, "whatever are his personal views", and even modern oriental orthodox disagree that their views are Nestorian.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-11164848600341636692015-02-24T11:18:57.563-08:002015-02-24T11:18:57.563-08:00This is unreal....and boy was it kept quiet.
Why ...This is unreal....and boy was it kept quiet.<br /><br />Why not name C.S. Lewis a Doctor?....seriously.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742800352247658277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-7449008489610021192015-02-24T09:23:10.318-08:002015-02-24T09:23:10.318-08:00There was a brief reunion at Florence, and then th...There was a brief reunion at Florence, and then the Armenian Catholic Church was not established until 1740. Whatever the personal views of St. Gregory of Narek, his church was not Chalcedonian. <br /><br />-Alex<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-50811298429432410302015-02-24T09:14:34.595-08:002015-02-24T09:14:34.595-08:00Surely he was a Chalcedonian Armenian.Surely he was a Chalcedonian Armenian.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-48043953405796203782015-02-24T09:10:43.506-08:002015-02-24T09:10:43.506-08:00I can beleieve it. Francis et al MUST pull somethi...I can beleieve it. Francis et al MUST pull something like this if they are to proclaim Luther a "saint" in 2017. I have said it before on this blog. This is the only way the heretics can pretend to be "Catholic" without conversions. Mark my words. This is what Vaticon Double was all about. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-48975604997963948222015-02-24T08:42:19.952-08:002015-02-24T08:42:19.952-08:00The point is he was not Catholic.
He was "O...The point is he was not Catholic. <br /><br />He was "Orthodox" only in the sense that Copts, Armenians, Ethiopians, etc. call themselves Orthodox. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-49563155571700405452015-02-24T08:33:06.679-08:002015-02-24T08:33:06.679-08:00Then he's not "Orthodox".Then he's not "Orthodox".Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-58103347312037761312015-02-24T07:53:37.653-08:002015-02-24T07:53:37.653-08:00St, Gregory of Narek belonged to the Armenian Apos...St, Gregory of Narek belonged to the Armenian Apostolic Church, which did not accept Chalcedon. There had been no reunion during his lifetime.<br /><br />-AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-40851252555489158392015-02-24T07:01:42.004-08:002015-02-24T07:01:42.004-08:00Surely the Photian Schism was over by St. Gregory...Surely the Photian Schism was over by St. Gregory's time and it predates Michael Cerularius by at least 50 years.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-4205864907762574682015-02-24T06:47:12.906-08:002015-02-24T06:47:12.906-08:00Not kidding.
(I'm the original anonymous)
...Not kidding. <br /><br />(I'm the original anonymous) <br /><br />-Alex <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-13105246762932260092015-02-24T06:30:25.270-08:002015-02-24T06:30:25.270-08:00Are you kidding me? Seriously?Are you kidding me? Seriously?susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742800352247658277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-89694044606338468292015-02-24T06:21:57.498-08:002015-02-24T06:21:57.498-08:00It should be noted that this is an unprecedented a...It should be noted that this is an unprecedented act of ecumenism, as St. Gregory of Narek was Oriental Orthodox, and not in communion with Rome. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com