tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post2855139395116591213..comments2024-03-18T20:53:13.625-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Celibacy: Is Pope Francis Going to Ordain Married Deacons to the Priesthood in Mexico?Tancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-20140589558650033412016-02-15T07:19:03.827-08:002016-02-15T07:19:03.827-08:00Is he going to bring back severe penances, the Mas...Is he going to bring back severe penances, the Mass of the Catechumens, and liturgical orthopraxis?Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-83489657756486741032016-02-15T07:04:50.947-08:002016-02-15T07:04:50.947-08:00EXCUSE ME!!!!!! but,,,our dear pope francis was se...EXCUSE ME!!!!!! but,,,our dear pope francis was sent to us from God above!!! all the other popes were good popes but,,,very weak!! pope francis,,is doing so much to change back our catholic church to its' original roots from our dear first priests...our dear disciples...they were married men....and our dear pope of hope franics is going strong to bring in again...''optional celibacy''...amen!!! it is about time!!! no one puts down our dear pope...god sent him to us!!!!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-19101057571608497662016-02-15T06:52:42.901-08:002016-02-15T06:52:42.901-08:00sorry to say this to you....but...the church did n...sorry to say this to you....but...the church did not always have a celibate clergy system!!! our first christian priests were married,,, our dear disciples...including...saint peter!! along the line...some pope just for ''politics'' out to make the church rich,,,for when a preist past away...not having a family of his own...he left all his wealth to the church...which is why the roman catholic church is so rich now adays!! very shameful!!!! because our lord and savior was born in a cave...to show humility...richness comes from the evil one!!! pope francis knows...that mandatory celibacy...is not church dogma!! it is only out for control!!! with a stroke of his white papal pen...he can change it back...to...''optional celibacy''...our very frist teachings from our disciples. whith optional celibacy...a preist chooses whether to have a family or just stay celibate!!! it is about time!!!! thanks and blessings!!! i hope i made myself clear this time!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-90458739856853992282016-02-13T07:58:52.858-08:002016-02-13T07:58:52.858-08:00If you're worried about abuses, then we should...If you're worried about abuses, then we should just go ahead and abolish humanity.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-88346908700843137952016-02-13T07:57:35.059-08:002016-02-13T07:57:35.059-08:00The Church has always had a celibate clergy and it...The Church has always had a celibate clergy and it always will have it, people's emotive desires notwithstanding.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-17517104017592121542016-02-13T07:22:19.813-08:002016-02-13T07:22:19.813-08:00I see your point!!! but,,,you don't understan...I see your point!!! but,,,you don't understand!!! married priests will be only...for a man and woman,,,as it was in the begining and always will be!!! it will become optional celibacy. a normal priest will choose to be married or not!! if they are gay,,,well i'm sorry there is no marriage in God's eyes between two men or two women!! i really think that this homosexual thing is a real sickness in the mind!!! i consider it an healness!! so i suggest we pray for homosexuals and lesbians. God created man and woman to go forth and multiply!!! the evil one is really destroying our world!!! yes,,,homosexuals have a real chemical imbalance in their brains. so sad!!! let's pray for them!!! blessings!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-79188788426530937382016-02-12T01:57:51.862-08:002016-02-12T01:57:51.862-08:00YES!!!! i know that most sexual abuse are by so m...YES!!!! i know that most sexual abuse are by so many pervert married men as well!!! but,,,these so called priests go into hiding and they know that there are victims for them in that field. they are surrounded by youths!! so this sexual abuse is from disturbed people!!! that is what makes it so evil!!! think about it,,,why are so many catholic priests all over the world...sexually abusing youths? how shameful!!! plus...in the bible from the begining....God says to man and woman...go forth and multiply!!! so priest or not,,, a man has a right to choose if he wants to be married or not!!!! this is my point!!! mandatory celibacy,,is pagan and hypocritical. do you know how many priests have girlfriends??? many!!! and that is normal!!! a priest is also a man!!! not a robot!!! as the church expects them to be!! thank heavens for...our dear pope of hope francis!!! may god bless him!!! thank you!! and blessings!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-57764118506350090902016-02-11T08:57:34.122-08:002016-02-11T08:57:34.122-08:00You sound like a Zapatero, not a Catholic.
1. Mos...You sound like a Zapatero, not a Catholic.<br /><br />1. Most sexual abuse is committed by married men, so I don't see what denigrating an apostolic tradition by allowing them is going to help.<br /><br />2. "Human Rights" doesn't have anything to do with Catholicism. Error has no rights.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-87057061165628954292016-02-11T07:55:54.817-08:002016-02-11T07:55:54.817-08:00NO,,,SIR...I HAVE ALOT OF FAITH!!! I WAS RAISED,,...NO,,,SIR...I HAVE ALOT OF FAITH!!! I WAS RAISED,,A DEVOUTED CATHOLIC!!!! I THINK I KNOW...WHAT YOU MEAN....ALL THESE PERVERT PRIESTS...MOLESTING INNOCENT CHILDREN....THAT IS EVIL...NOT FAITH AT ALL!!! FOR BRINGING BACK,,TO ITS' ORIGINAL TEACHING OF...FAITH.....THAT GOES WITH A MARRIED CLERGY...FOR THAT IS WHAT GOD WANTS...IN A MAN AND WOMAN...TO GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY!! BY MAKING...CELIBACY...FREE CHOICE...''OPTIONAL...ALL THE SEXUAL DIRTY SECRETS HIDDEN IN THE CHURCH WILL COME OUT ON THE TABLE...''NICE AND CLEAR''...I THINK I MADE MY POINT!!! FOR MANY DECADES,,,''FROBIDDING PRIESTS FROM MARRYING,,,,IS DENYING THEM OF THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS....'' THIS ABUSE SHOULD BE STOPPED,,,,NOW!!! THANK YOU!!! AND BLESSINGS TO ALL!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-42118463835330671082016-02-09T15:46:16.194-08:002016-02-09T15:46:16.194-08:00Modernists want to go back to the "ancient&qu...Modernists want to go back to the "ancient" Church in all things but the Faith.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-7055572993041848582016-02-09T15:30:12.341-08:002016-02-09T15:30:12.341-08:00On the contrary, the effort to undermine the celib...On the contrary, the effort to undermine the celibate clergy by trying to impose a married one on the laity is modernist and Protestant.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-85491914154397871642016-02-09T13:42:26.713-08:002016-02-09T13:42:26.713-08:00I think it is worth remembering that nothing about...I think it is worth remembering that nothing about married priests is contrary to Catholic doctrine. <br /><br />Moreover, a married clergy is an ancient Christian tradition, as the praxis of all the Eastern Christian churches makes abundantly clear.Nestorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12451689362536912674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-20070173319142601472016-02-09T07:59:32.046-08:002016-02-09T07:59:32.046-08:00It's about time!!! we have...''option...It's about time!!! we have...''optional celibacy'',,,that way our church goes back to its' ''original teachings'' of our dear first christian priests...the disciples...they were married men and so was our first dear pope st. peter!!! mandatory celibacy was brought in just for politics!!! shame on them!!! thank God for our dear pope of hope francis for having an open mind and heart on this important matter!!! with ''optional celibacy'' a priest can choose rather to be celibate or married!! about extra payment...they won't need it,,,they will have their wives and their families to help them out!!! it's about time the church goes back to its' original roots!!!! if not....in ten years we will not even have a priest left!!! god bless our dear...pope francis!!! thank you!! and blessings!!! we can't wait,,,for this,,,blessing of...''optional celibacy'' amen!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-82390183424629973342016-02-08T16:37:15.318-08:002016-02-08T16:37:15.318-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-65648938371686790012016-02-08T11:44:40.418-08:002016-02-08T11:44:40.418-08:00A homosexual priest will not be helped by marriage...A homosexual priest will not be helped by marriage...and then you will have the issue of gay "marriage" if priests are allowed to marry then wont the sodomites demand that too? Celibacy is a great gift to the holy Church.M. Prodigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05598092468839468735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-52927466795116789722016-02-08T09:52:44.952-08:002016-02-08T09:52:44.952-08:00Considering all the trouble we've had with a c...Considering all the trouble we've had with a certain type of "celibate" priests, married priests isn't such a bad idea. How to pay for them, that's another question...Tony Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10862727279147129707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-8978826223356376882016-02-08T09:18:30.235-08:002016-02-08T09:18:30.235-08:00Paying no heed to the long-pending and widely know...Paying no heed to the long-pending and widely known canonical charges against Maciel by eight of the Legionary seminarians he had sexually molested, John Paul lavishly honored him in a public ceremony at the Vatican in November 2004. Days later, however, then Cardinal Ratzinger “took it on himself to authorize an investigation of Maciel.” [Jason Berry, “Money Paved the Way for Maciel’s Influence in the Vatican,” National Catholic Reporter, April 6, 2010].Ivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08073646543319151044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-18745347251310343182016-02-08T08:53:02.221-08:002016-02-08T08:53:02.221-08:00God save us from Pope Francis!God save us from Pope Francis!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-50241618598786591732016-02-08T07:26:14.546-08:002016-02-08T07:26:14.546-08:00Yep, he actually resigned before JPII died, so you...Yep, he actually resigned before JPII died, so your conception that he did nothing is incorrect.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-8983115515102630522016-02-08T07:17:22.518-08:002016-02-08T07:17:22.518-08:00It appears that you enjoy making mountains out of ...It appears that you enjoy making mountains out of molehills. Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11956255697038345367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-20663287003857412222016-02-08T06:35:01.916-08:002016-02-08T06:35:01.916-08:00I'm not sure where you get this info:
In 2006...I'm not sure where you get this info:<br /><br />In 2006, Pope Benedict XVI removed Maciel from active ministry based on the results of an investigation started under John Paul II concerning sexual impropriety. <br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcial_Maciel<br /><br />"Evidence has emerged of Maciel's abuse of seminarians as long ago as the 1940s. An American bishop sent detailed evidence from a former Legion priest to Rome through official channels on three occasions. Nothing happened. Meanwhile the cash flowed into the Vatican's coffers from Maciel's wealthy friends.<br /><br />"By 2004, Jason Berry and the late Gerald Renner had exposed his double life in their book and documentary Vows of Silence. The following year, Maciel stood down from running the Legionaries, and just days before the death of John Paul, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was speaking of the "filth in the church", widely interpreted as meaning child abusers in general and quite possibly Maciel in particular. It took Ratzinger just a year following his election as Pope Benedict XVI to discipline Maciel and invite him to a life of penitence and prayer."<br /><br />http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/jan/07/canonising-john-paul-marcial-maciel-degolladoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-31599416345121860142016-02-08T06:01:25.463-08:002016-02-08T06:01:25.463-08:00Actually, Maciel was suspended under John Paul II....Actually, Maciel was suspended under John Paul II.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-87925443680015491782016-02-08T05:56:14.045-08:002016-02-08T05:56:14.045-08:00Patriarch Krill would approve! So would Marty Lut...Patriarch Krill would approve! So would Marty Luther! Bet Rorate, the Remnant, Church Militant, aka Catholic, Tradition in Action, Fellay, Burke, Schneider, Pell, EWTN etc. all will approve also by their SILENT consent and/or their "?" This will pave the way for sodomite and PEDOPHILE priests (who are already open). <br /><br />It is so funny how Josephinum breaks all contact w/Joel Wright, but the clowns above keep walkin along singin a song straight to hell.<br />http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2016/02/05/steubenville-ohio-franciscan-university-knew-about-craigslist-ad-placed-by-joel-wright-before-arrest.html<br /><br />http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/joel-wright-seminary-student-priest-ohio-sex-rape-adopt-baby-tijuana-mexico-documents-photos-vermont-glaucoma-blind-ice-san-diego/<br /><br />Danneels catechism: i.e. the CATHOLIC Church taught CHILDREN under their care that toddlers WANT to have SEX w/adults (mom & dad!) - and this is who Bergoglio especially, personally appointed to Synod on SEX for SODOMITES!!!!! And who has walked out? Phil Lawler? "DR" Mirius? Bishop Fellay? Michael Matt? Louis Verecchio? Tancred? Chris Ferrara? Rorate? John Venari? <br /><br />Let's look at the picture one more time (and this has been known at the vatican for 20 years--during JP2 (sAint) who never did nuthin about Maciel's pedophilia either!):<br /><br />https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/belgian-bishops-ignored-parents-on-grossly-sexually-explicit-catholic-catec <br /><br />The people WALKED OUT on Nestorius -- but WHO will walk out on Bergoglio, Danneels, JP2, Benedict 16, Paul 6 and JP2 naked women offering gifts (at mass)?<br /><br />http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A027rcOffertoryGift.htm Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com