tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post7858775795631767984..comments2024-03-29T07:38:07.393-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Scottish Priest is Being Dismissed from Clerical State Because of Book Critical of Sodomites in the Catholic ChurchTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-63140434469265173622018-08-16T04:50:14.445-07:002018-08-16T04:50:14.445-07:00I’m willing to bet that you’re not fully on board ...I’m willing to bet that you’re not fully on board with the Church’s teaching on a few things. I suspect that might be the real source of your grievance with Father Despard.<br /><br />Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-26601988037067444812018-08-15T20:11:37.487-07:002018-08-15T20:11:37.487-07:00Despard has conned lots of people for years, that&...Despard has conned lots of people for years, that's who he is a professional conman. He was never cut out for the priesthood, read the book, the idiot says as much himself if you read between the lines. I can't remember one single time he heard confessions after 10 o'clock mass on a Saturday, and hardly ever gave a homily at mass on a Sunday.And if he did it only lasted a couple of minutes at best, and never dressed properly for mass don't think he new how to dress himself correctly, it was as if he was acting as a priest, one of the masses he celebrated was no longer than 15 minutes maximum, I'm being generous to him here, this was when he came to St Brides East Kilbride, where he gathered his little clique and pretend to be a caring,lovable, Holy priest. And the rest could drop dead. Don't forget he realised needed some people on his side or the game was up. I'm right Mr Despard ain't I. That's what he does every where he goes that's how he makes a living, he's was a lazy priest, ok he would run to the hospital when someone's mother was dying, or turn up at some event that suited him for whatever purpose he had in mind for the future. But always just mingling with his clique. I'm right Mr Despard ain't I. Re the book being withdrawn from Amazon, it had nothing to do with Despard, it was two people who were mentioned in the book. I am one of those people he told lies about, as god is my judge I've forgiven him, only because he is a very very sick person, also I don't understand how people from all over the world who read this pathetic little book, can back him up, when they don't even know anything about mr Despard I'm right Mr Despard ain't I. God Bless the Holly Catholic Church and save us from unworthy priests.Truehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08993254018576603097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-3178452140219138352016-12-23T19:53:30.783-08:002016-12-23T19:53:30.783-08:00They let them in. Our case is the opposite- they r...They let them in. Our case is the opposite- they run everything, and we need to let the straights in.thomas tuckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06241537308195762967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-91093617535804570062016-12-22T09:29:57.506-08:002016-12-22T09:29:57.506-08:00Plenty of them in the CoE and the EKD.Plenty of them in the CoE and the EKD.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-57730199652551640072016-12-22T09:08:49.282-08:002016-12-22T09:08:49.282-08:00Nope. It will drive the gays out.Nope. It will drive the gays out.thomas tuckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06241537308195762967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-34826665891198037512016-12-21T16:19:40.717-08:002016-12-21T16:19:40.717-08:00Besides being wrong about several details of Fathe...Besides being wrong about several details of Father's situation, you're kind of snotty and haughty.<br />Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-60278073833060390792016-12-21T16:17:11.441-08:002016-12-21T16:17:11.441-08:00You sure are pushy. Do you always try to tell peo...You sure are pushy. Do you always try to tell people the way you expect things to be based on your commands and on their own blog? <br /><br />You're probabaly Samuel's sock puppet.<br /><br />The main point of the blog post is that a faithful priest is being persecuted by his bishop. You don't get to dictate what the post is about, either.<br /><br />Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-53391004463597607102016-12-21T16:07:05.812-08:002016-12-21T16:07:05.812-08:00Since when did asking a question become 'givi...Since when did asking a question become 'giving orders'?<br /><br />I'm not sure what part of my 'account' you doubt, or why on earth you should doubt it, but it is immaterial. As for identifying myself, why should I? <br /><br />The accuracy of the central claim of this blogpost - that Father Despard is being dismissed from the priesthood - has been questioned by DJR, Samuel, Anonymous and myself. Your unwillingness to address that question, and the petulance of your bizarre replies, is not impressive. Cathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12740969565728510756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-13254718203428019872016-12-21T15:19:01.916-08:002016-12-21T15:19:01.916-08:00I don't understand why you're giving order...I don't understand why you're giving orders as to what is and what is not accurate and object to identifying yourself. <br /><br />I really doubt your account of what you've written or whether you know Father at all. Fact is, his book was removed by Amazon, it wasn't somrthing he willingly took down in order to lie low to abase himself to his malicious superior, or some insincere stab at obedience..<br /><br />http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/amazon-pull-priests-best-selling-book-1913032<br /><br />Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-75119292454618517482016-12-21T14:51:51.454-08:002016-12-21T14:51:51.454-08:00I don't understand what you're saying.I don't understand what you're saying.Cathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12740969565728510756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-89163696150090997782016-12-21T14:30:02.776-08:002016-12-21T14:30:02.776-08:00"Do you ask all commenters on here who they a..."Do you ask all commenters on here who they are? I've given as much information about me as you need to know. Who are you anyway?"<br /><br />So you're someone who holds Padre Pio's approach to ecclesiastical corruption in all instances in high regard. You're one of THOSE.<br /><br />Why not follow his example then, and stay silent, or do you only feel emboldened to quibble and criticize people who are not silent?Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-64856929218800117212016-12-21T14:13:10.695-08:002016-12-21T14:13:10.695-08:00Do you ask all commenters on here who they are? I&...Do you ask all commenters on here who they are? I've given as much information about me as you need to know. Who are you anyway?<br /><br />I read the book when it came out. The distinction between its being "removed from sale" and its being "removed outright by Amazon.uk" adds nothing to the discussion.<br /><br />Your repeating something ad tedium doesn't make it true. You have been asked a reasonable question about an assertion you made. Guesswork on your part is not an adequate justification for an assertion of the kind you have made. <br /><br />At the moment we are awaiting an important response to important questions addressed by eminent cardinals. The character and integrity of someone is demonstrated by the way they answer or refuse to answer direct questions.Cathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12740969565728510756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-88454201439745620092016-12-21T12:54:25.626-08:002016-12-21T12:54:25.626-08:00Sorry Cathy, I don't see things the way you do...Sorry Cathy, I don't see things the way you do. Who are you anyway? <br /><br />If we were talking about a bishop who wasn't manifestly corrupt, I guess I might see things your way. But as I've repeated ad infitum in this discussion, the process toward Father's complete dismissal is ongoing. We trust the wolves to continue as wolves and sheep as sheep.<br /><br />The book wasn't so much removed from sale as removed outright by Amazon.uk. <br /><br />It's still available for free, if you didn't know. I certainly plan to continue making it obvious.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-4846071057397945472016-12-21T12:39:53.071-08:002016-12-21T12:39:53.071-08:00That's where you're wrong.That's where you're wrong. Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-16770801749163761402016-12-21T11:45:44.146-08:002016-12-21T11:45:44.146-08:00"Suggesting" is not the same as "St..."Suggesting" is not the same as "Stating". And "lying low" is not the same as "playing nice". So no, I did not "miss that". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-59375451635109502362016-12-21T11:32:46.377-08:002016-12-21T11:32:46.377-08:00I don't normally make comments on this blog bu...I don't normally make comments on this blog but am familiar with the situation in the parish in question, and very much support Father Despard. <br /><br />I've followed the thread and Samuel's concerns about the way you have described Father Despard's status is entirely legitimate. You cannot say he is being dismissed from the priesthood unless that has been established as fact. If you establish it as a fact then you can report it. If it isn't established as a fact then you cannot report it. <br /><br />As a matter of fact Father Despard has been 'lying low' for the past three years. He has withdrawn his book from sale. He has always sought to be a good and faithful priest, and sometimes good and faithful priests have to lie low - as did St Padre Pio when he was unjustly persecuted by the Church authorities. It would have done nobody any favours, during Padre Pio's troubles, for writers to claim that he was being 'dismissed from the clerical state.' As well as being unhelpful it would have been untrue. Doesn't truth matter? <br /><br />Samuel asked you to substantiate your claim that Father Despard is in the process of being dismissed from the clerical state. Such a claim has been made nowhere else. Do you have insider information which substantiates your claim or are you under a misapprehension which needs to be corrected? I think Samuel's question deserves an answer. <br /><br /> <br /><br />Cathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12740969565728510756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-20557311015620908832016-12-21T10:36:31.858-08:002016-12-21T10:36:31.858-08:00Suggesting that a blog post will remove any hope o...Suggesting that a blog post will remove any hope of Father being reinstated to his former role, and that Father was 'lying low' and should continue to do so? <br /><br />Did you miss that?<br />Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-6465541478982201072016-12-21T10:24:37.800-08:002016-12-21T10:24:37.800-08:00Where did Samuel attempt to suborn people into pre...Where did Samuel attempt to suborn people into pretending the Church of Scotland isn't Kafkaesque? And where did he say that the problems will go away by playing nice? Is English your second language? You are failing to address his points and sarcastically making up points of argument that he clearly did not propose. Just because he doesn't agree with you doesn't mean you have to take it as a personal affront. Answer him in a Catholic manner and please refrain from making up arguments which he never made. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-40696115844178557072016-12-21T07:52:26.378-08:002016-12-21T07:52:26.378-08:00At least in the SSPX he'll be treated fairly a...At least in the SSPX he'll be treated fairly and be given the benefit of due process.<br /><br />If I didn't recognize your handle, I'd think you were Mrs. X's husband.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5235302850494614362016-12-21T07:50:01.389-08:002016-12-21T07:50:01.389-08:00Samuel, you're operating under the premise tha...Samuel, you're operating under the premise that the Church of Scottland is anything other than that which can be described as Kafkaesque, and your attempt to suborn people into pretending it isn't, or that the problems will go away if we play nice, sure sounds like the tactics employed by the lavender princes who've somehow managed to take over the reigns of God's Church.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-54431360250116999442016-12-21T02:05:43.601-08:002016-12-21T02:05:43.601-08:00Well, I live in the Diocese of Motherwell and know...Well, I live in the Diocese of Motherwell and know the parish and a family close to the said priest. The suggestion that the SSPX would be a possible home for him is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time.<br />I have also read the priest's book and, although the main thrust may have some truth about it, the book makes for a toe-curling, buttock-clenching, self-serving cringe of a read. sarto2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/16181248591832089703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-13814493876065118162016-12-20T23:31:01.431-08:002016-12-20T23:31:01.431-08:00Samuel, none of that really matters. The Scottish...Samuel, none of that really matters. The Scottish hierarchy--and the hierarchy well beyond Scotland--is riddled with sexual perversion. That's what matters and that's what needs to be addressed. Tony Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10862727279147129707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-76513523965582630512016-12-20T21:04:43.722-08:002016-12-20T21:04:43.722-08:00How come they not doing the same thing to bible wh...How come they not doing the same thing to bible which speaks the evil of those actions and a book written by a saint in 11 century who warned of the wrath of God because of homosexuality in the church written by St. Peter of Damian book call The book of Gomorrah and also St Catherine of Siena had a vision from lord on the evil of homosexuality which harms him so much, look it up and all these priest are trying to promote it, what a shame and they should take care and read over and over on the lords words if anyone causes any of these little ones to be scandalized , it'll be better if they were to put a stone on a rope and throw it in sea, it'll be better if they were never been born, that's scary for priest who promote sin and scandalize the people of God to see there's no sin.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06187386365783288327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-72456521044376246362016-12-20T18:58:05.640-08:002016-12-20T18:58:05.640-08:00Whether or not it is correct I do not know. You ha...Whether or not it is correct I do not know. You have not substantiated your assertion and what you have said indicates that you know little about the case which some of us have been following since 2013.<br /><br />I don't need an attorney. I am a canon lawyer. Accuracy is important to me. I regret that it is lacking in your reporting, and I regret your inability to recognise this even after it has been clearly demonstrated to you. I will withdraw now from further comment on this.Samuelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-75146720636956979892016-12-20T18:40:01.069-08:002016-12-20T18:40:01.069-08:00It's absolutely correct. Get an attorney if yo...It's absolutely correct. Get an attorney if you don't like it. It's 100% accurate.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.com