tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post7800175753734798034..comments2024-03-28T15:32:38.398-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: The Conversion of 1,000 Jews: What Does the Neocatechumenal Way on the End of Times and What Isn't It Saying?Tancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-52090816325802171202016-01-09T19:43:40.148-08:002016-01-09T19:43:40.148-08:00Many Catholics, including priests, have no idea of...Many Catholics, including priests, have no idea of what to do with suffering. They have lost sight of the key to the mystery of suffering--offer it to Christ, on the Cross. Neo-Cats priests, it seems to me, have this down very well. <br /><br />What difference does living near the end of times make? Hmm. If you have to ask, perhaps there's little point in me answering!Michael Ortizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12823627318269572922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-57181672247759457272016-01-09T13:35:02.523-08:002016-01-09T13:35:02.523-08:00Most of the major figures in American Catholicism ...Most of the major figures in American Catholicism were Americanist heretics by 1890. It's why Isaac Hecker and his ilk prospered.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-80736586251491892972016-01-09T13:16:14.391-08:002016-01-09T13:16:14.391-08:00I agree with you and just stated the "officia...I agree with you and just stated the "official" trouble began in 1951.I said 1964 as that's a year most can agree upon.Nothing more nothing less,I know it was going downhill long before 1951.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-75840990389467964842016-01-09T13:11:05.912-08:002016-01-09T13:11:05.912-08:00Whether or not most Catholics agree upon 1964 as t...Whether or not most Catholics agree upon 1964 as the actual date or not I don't know, but I do know that's not when things began. <br /><br />Heretical clergy at the University of Tuebingen refused to sign the Oath Against Modernism, and what did St. Pius X do to them? Nothing. They were allowed to go on as before, much as heretical clergy was allowed to perpetuate itself all over the Western world by dominating universities.<br /><br />I haven't taken much of a census myself, but it wouldn't surprise me if most of America's Bishops were material, if not formal, heretics c. 1860.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-79336376036022486892016-01-09T13:07:25.648-08:002016-01-09T13:07:25.648-08:00I say 1964 as this is a year most catholics can ag...I say 1964 as this is a year most catholics can agree upon.Personally I believe the trouble started in 1951 with the Easter Vigil being transformed and changed.<br />Secondly,I consider myself a Roman Catholic who obeys the Council of Trent.(Session 7 Canon 13 if obeyed by Pius XII,John 23rd,Paul VI,etc..would've prevented this current maelstrom)<br />So,do you think I should be burned at the stake for attending a chapel that obeys the pre-1950 traditions including our priest who has pre-June 1968 holy orders?<br />Not being sarcastic,just very curious if I'm part of the problem? <br />Once again not being rude or sarcastic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-9344784054966180802016-01-09T12:57:30.855-08:002016-01-09T12:57:30.855-08:00Since 1964? That's your problem right there. ...Since 1964? That's your problem right there. People's ideas should correspond to reality, not one's convenience or as a justification for an evil course of action. <br /><br />It's funny because sedevacantists have been around a long time... orthodox schismatics, the flagellants, for example.<br /><br />People like this are a problem because they're so busy fighting with gnats, they miss the whole point, and they won't shut up about it, which is why so many of them were burnt at the stake back in the day, and why so many of them eventually wed their fanaticism to a militant form a anti-social egalitarianism.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-18351001258179166552016-01-09T12:43:39.506-08:002016-01-09T12:43:39.506-08:00Because,people need to get their lives in order.Ye...Because,people need to get their lives in order.Yes that applies in any time and/or any era.<br />However,if it's the last days,we have limited time to prepare for eternity.One thing we like about our priest (Roman Catholic priest not novus ordo) is,he preaches repentance and detachment from the world.Its a blessing to not hear about "crisis in the church" and the latest Jorge Bergoglio castatrophe every week.I understand we may disagree but so many people haven't heard authentic Roman Catholicism.Its important the poulation knows it may be close to the last days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-9025067401342191352016-01-09T12:40:46.443-08:002016-01-09T12:40:46.443-08:00I have no idea how this blog is promoting NC. Giu...I have no idea how this blog is promoting NC. Giusepe Nardi, from whom the article originates, has been critical of the doctrinally challenged Kiko in the past for his judiaizing, among other things.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-22505373836328450662016-01-09T12:34:32.609-08:002016-01-09T12:34:32.609-08:00Yes, he's also close to another (supposedly &q...Yes, he's also close to another (supposedly "conservative") "ecclesial community" called Communion & Liberation. See <a href="http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bergoglios-longtime-relation-w-the-modernist-ecclesial-movement" rel="nofollow">this</a>.Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-42973043079738358902016-01-09T12:30:34.012-08:002016-01-09T12:30:34.012-08:00I hold the sedevacantist position BUT not dogmatic...I hold the sedevacantist position BUT not dogmatic in regards to current situation.If SSPX is someone's preference,it's not my place to condemn them.Its my wish EVERY type of Roman Catholic who disagrees with changes since the early 50's would acknowledge each other & untie.People argue or are nasty to each other because they disagree about the title of the masonic-esque uncatholic men in Rome since the 1964.Seems to me they want us at each other's throats.We are catholics and in my opinion need to stop using terms such as 'sede' R & R' 'Material Formal'. (Yes I realize I typed being 'Sede' but that was to explain myself)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-38291342428629332932016-01-09T12:19:50.241-08:002016-01-09T12:19:50.241-08:00I am surprised to read the article promoting Neo-c...I am surprised to read the article promoting Neo-cat agenda on this blog. "Among members of the Neocatechumenal Way it is being spread around that" Kiko Arguello (a megalomaniac promoting heresies and quoting Talmud when preaching his "kerygma") is a prophet of the End of time and Carmen Hernandez (the blasphemer claiming publicly that the Heaven named her "benedicta in mulieribus") is a saint. It is a sect that develops and spreads only because of the tremendous crisis of the hierarchical church. If the situation was normal, Kiko would be in one of hermit orders and Carmen would work with "lepers" in Africa.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-56767837921979877742016-01-09T11:56:21.808-08:002016-01-09T11:56:21.808-08:00"Personally, I think we are quite near the en..."Personally, I think we are quite near the end of times, but not the end-time..."<br /><br />(a) why should anyone care? (b) what is the difference? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-71952849044010142702016-01-09T11:54:29.421-08:002016-01-09T11:54:29.421-08:00"and I must say that have real faith in the c..."and I must say that have real faith in the co-redemption"<br /><br />To quote Tancred: I have no idea what you're talkin' about.<br /><br />However, what about these 'cats' (and yours for that matter) faith in Jesus Christ as their ONLY redeemer, i.e. the Messiah? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-29867093476606685882016-01-09T11:06:23.613-08:002016-01-09T11:06:23.613-08:00Thanks for this info. It's interesting, indeed...Thanks for this info. It's interesting, indeed. I live in the DC area, and over the years, I have come across the Neo-cat priests, and I must say that have real faith in the co-redemption, the meaning of suffering joined to the Cross. I am in no way endorsing them; but I have seen and heard their preaching. <br /><br />Personally, I think we are quite near the end of times, but not the end-time...Michael Ortizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12823627318269572922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-80047470091113111342016-01-09T08:32:50.178-08:002016-01-09T08:32:50.178-08:00Any one had a recent conversation with an Israel-f...Any one had a recent conversation with an Israel-fU-Jesus-diplomat? Or a moham FU jesus diplomat? A khurd -FU- Jesus diplomat? <br /><br />They have a three second 'respect' that turns to FU Give me what satan wants or else.Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-58142774481718727542016-01-09T06:27:46.732-08:002016-01-09T06:27:46.732-08:00As usual, you veer off into irrelevance. I have no...As usual, you veer off into irrelevance. I have no idea what you're talking about.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-25276724519020980742016-01-09T06:14:36.061-08:002016-01-09T06:14:36.061-08:00Mr Tancred, I did read your thesis on Catholicism....Mr Tancred, I did read your thesis on Catholicism...blaming it on Truth...only to regress into protestantism.<br /><br />Which no Pope ever did.Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-7561499000681656262016-01-09T05:42:34.689-08:002016-01-09T05:42:34.689-08:00Sedevacantists like yourself are wrong as often as...Sedevacantists like yourself are wrong as often as they are stiff necked. Every post is another opportunity to beat your drum, irrespective of the subject of the post or just plain old reality.<br /><br />Sometimes I think your exclamations of disbelief, of despair and anger are important because you are, after all, real people, probably real Catholics, who've been betrayed by the people in charge, and are pointing out that something is wrong, terribly wrong, but all the same, when you seem to fall into despair, become mechanical and needlessly quarrelsome, I tend to think some dark thoughts myself, but I try to be constructive, and offer more food for thought. Whether that comes in the form of a story about Catholics being mirdered by Muslims in sub-Saharan Africa or the heroic resistance or real Catholics in China to the Satanic Communists in power there, I hope eyes are opened beyond the usual rat cellar most people in your shoes fall into.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-53632751132004322762016-01-09T04:19:05.409-08:002016-01-09T04:19:05.409-08:00Or Israeli authorities.Or Israeli authorities.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-11406717700901549482016-01-09T04:04:07.899-08:002016-01-09T04:04:07.899-08:00Maybe that if they have converted a whole of Jews ...Maybe that if they have converted a whole of Jews they are afraid of falling foul of Cardinal Koch's recent document on relationships with the Jews which says no institution of the Church should try to convert Jews!Nicolas Bellordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063019108964247676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-26514961136597099012016-01-08T23:21:16.312-08:002016-01-08T23:21:16.312-08:00I know why, but explain to your standard demograph...I know why, but explain to your standard demographic why.<br /><br />Meanwhile blasphemy, lies, antichristness and all the confusions wrought thereof are 'fair play'. But as a baron of blog, you of course self appoint your authority. <br /><br />Eternal Father, please look to the Blood of Christ, poured out on Golgotha, and offered up by the few priests of the Eternal Order of Melchisedek, keeping the unadulterated altars of Our Lord Jesus Christ...have mercy on us.<br />Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-39703084151127153652016-01-08T22:08:39.320-08:002016-01-08T22:08:39.320-08:00I'm probably going to start closing comment se...I'm probably going to start closing comment sections.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-12139154310869454532016-01-08T20:28:11.316-08:002016-01-08T20:28:11.316-08:00What a load of bunk. First of all the computer gra...What a load of bunk. First of all the computer graphics and tag line are only recognised by the Novus Ordo anti-Church. As for the rabbis - the are working-towards/waiting for Antichrist. Antichrist is the moshiach of Rabbinicalism. As for your average Jew for Jesus, when they give up the 'jew' bit and just become 'for Christ', then maybe the in-gathering will be happening where in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek..'Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-23552392705539105872016-01-08T16:58:45.831-08:002016-01-08T16:58:45.831-08:00I know Sean O'Malley and Uncle Teddy McCarrick...I know Sean O'Malley and Uncle Teddy McCarrick (in Cuba w/FatBerg & Mafioso Cuomo) are big w/this neo-cat group. I would think it is some Egyptian cult that worships the devil and have absolutely nothing to do w/it (of course, TM was placing these cats in seminaries and ordaining them and placing them in parishes while not even telling anyone who or what they were). <br /><br />http://www.catechumenusa.com/2013/10/archdiocese-of-washington-cardinal.html<br /><br />"The encounter was presided by the Archbishop of Philadelphia Charles Chaput. Also present were Cardinals Sean O’Malley(Boston), Stanislaw Rylko (Pres. of Pontifical Council for the Laity), Theodore McCarrick (Archbishop Emeritus of Washington D.C.), Jean-Pierre Kutwa (Abidjan, Ivory Coast), and Andrew Soo-Yung (Seoul). More than 30 other bishops also attended." <br />http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/united-states-over-1-000-families-offer-to-go-in-mission<br /><br />http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/mccarrick_says_most_bishops_sense_the_spirit_behind_ecclesial_movements<br /><br />http://www.miamiarch.org/CatholicDiocese.php?op=Article_143210384443<br /><br />http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2000/04/When-Mass-Is-A-Beach.aspx<br /><br />My take is they don't want anyone to talk to these Jews because one would find out they haven't converted to Catholicism at all-but kiko & kookie (like bergog) have converted to Judaism and no longer call Jesus Christ the Messiah but are expecting the Messiah's FIRST coming w/the Jews. And have designed a heliopad for the alien space ship. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-82121253094891126972016-01-08T15:36:29.802-08:002016-01-08T15:36:29.802-08:00The Neocatechumenal Way is not Catholic.
Why woul...The Neocatechumenal Way is not Catholic.<br /><br />Why would only 1000 converting mean the "end of time" is coming? <i>All</i> Jews have to convert before Christ's Second Coming.Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.com