tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post773796244693082868..comments2024-03-28T02:22:35.857-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Bergoglian Goblins Publish Libelous Article About Saint Benedict Center -- Local Ordinary Wants them to Stop Teaching What the Church Has Always TaughtTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-47082984159593924862019-01-16T07:32:04.839-08:002019-01-16T07:32:04.839-08:00How much says she went to face the monster who had...How much says she went to face the monster who had been messing with her mind? That priest is a narcissist. Besides being a sex maniac, the priest has personality disorder issues. He puts on one face for the world to see, but privately he is something totally different. I've seen that type before.<br /><br />I've also seen Andre's type before. He's the willing accomplice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-25701658442761765722019-01-16T06:22:05.378-08:002019-01-16T06:22:05.378-08:00No, I think he was more in the try to work it out ...No, I think he was more in the try to work it out with the hysterical and possibly lying woman mode.<br /><br /><br /><br />Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-21843266862435487572019-01-16T06:19:19.291-08:002019-01-16T06:19:19.291-08:00Get a “clue”? Are you a child? She could have wr...Get a “clue”? Are you a child? She could have written a letter and made a phone call. There is actually a number on a diocesan website to report predators like Grega.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-78292887339699578442019-01-16T02:41:39.444-08:002019-01-16T02:41:39.444-08:00"...why did she travel all the way to Quebec ... "...why did she travel all the way to Quebec to visit him and talk to him a year after she allegedly rebuffed his advances?"<br /><br />Straight from the website: "One week after this visit to Québec, she would go to the bishops. Grega probably imagined that she would never find the strength to turn him in."<br /><br />She got tired of his mind games. Get a clue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-47889013748667229532019-01-16T02:02:48.473-08:002019-01-16T02:02:48.473-08:00"He probabably didn’t want to waste his time....<br />"He probabably didn’t want to waste his time."<br /><br />That's not it. As Frank said, Andre was in PYP mode.<br /><br />"Show me the police report."<br /><br />So you only object to priests who are criminals. You don't mind priests who are gravely immoral. As long as there's no rap sheet, you and Andre will take priests who can't keep their pants up. Got it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-26568378945671933032019-01-16T01:25:20.509-08:002019-01-16T01:25:20.509-08:00
He probabably didn’t want to waste his time. In a...<br />He probabably didn’t want to waste his time. In any case, since Mary Jo already told them she was going to complain, why wouldn’t he go to the Bishop?<br /><br />I know women do crazy things, but why did she travel all the way to Quebec to visit him and talk to him a year after she allegedly rebuffed his advances? Sounds like a romantic attachment that went sour.<br /><br />Show me the police report.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-27225765791518400602019-01-15T17:58:47.342-08:002019-01-15T17:58:47.342-08:00As suspected. Andre did not consult the bishop.As suspected. Andre did not consult the bishop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-39469710418410825002019-01-15T17:57:15.630-08:002019-01-15T17:57:15.630-08:00So the answer is "no."So the answer is "no."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-64091387915678647732019-01-15T17:13:06.926-08:002019-01-15T17:13:06.926-08:00I take it we’re done here?I take it we’re done here?Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-13509832108209542872019-01-15T13:54:49.765-08:002019-01-15T13:54:49.765-08:00How much says that Brother Andre never consulted w...How much says that Brother Andre never consulted with the bishop about this? Brother Andre is the very definition of vindictive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-47264816798496876362019-01-15T11:26:47.074-08:002019-01-15T11:26:47.074-08:00@Frank
Your take is completely irrelevant.@Frank<br /><br />Your take is completely irrelevant.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-83831303725134379582019-01-15T11:24:26.064-08:002019-01-15T11:24:26.064-08:00"Brother Andre did not deal with this. He tri..."Brother Andre did not deal with this. He tried to get Mary Anger to drop her claims and did witness tampering."<br /><br />Witness tampering? There was no crime. Let's see a police report.<br /><br />" He wanted the priest and Fr. Grega was not nixed by the SBC but by higher authority. You still have a double standard. I believe that you are smart enough to understand this but don't want to understand it.?"<br /><br />So what? As far as Brother Andre knew, Mary Jo is yet another vindictive woman. I'll bet he's seen a few of those in his life. I know I have.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-16648028187818030342019-01-15T10:32:14.562-08:002019-01-15T10:32:14.562-08:00@Tancred,
You didn't publish my comment about...@Tancred,<br /><br />You didn't publish my comment about your and Bro. Andre's low standards for clergy. It hit home because Fr. Ripperger tells how the Church formerly dealt with bad priests, and Andre fought against traditional Church discipline.<br /><br />The reason Andre did so is because of his heresy. Feeneyism dictates everything that Andre does. It causes him to suspend objectivity. It causes him to lower his standards. It blinds him. He didn't believe the woman because she's not Feeneyite. All that earned him was a divine smackdown. Now he has no priests at all. Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-16286346484442880502019-01-15T09:25:50.680-08:002019-01-15T09:25:50.680-08:00Too bad this poorly authored attack isn't goin...Too bad this poorly authored attack isn't going to accomplish what you want it to do. No one else is going to be persuade by it.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-77603106011541731232019-01-15T09:16:38.953-08:002019-01-15T09:16:38.953-08:00I'm sensitive to Communist agitprop like SPLC,...I'm sensitive to Communist agitprop like SPLC, #metoo and trad women piggybacking feminism to attack the Church, yeah. Who needs Gloria Steinem, OY VEH!Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-30824488854439985922019-01-14T13:28:51.610-08:002019-01-14T13:28:51.610-08:00@Tancred,
This whole thing is very PYP=protect yo...@Tancred,<br /><br />This whole thing is very PYP=protect your predator. You and Bro. Andre need to watch this video about sex abuse in the Church. Both of you have low standards for your clergy. Start at 14:40. Fr. Ripperger will tell you what real standards for priests are. <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib3mfk3xX5AFranknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-23994007852597371482019-01-14T12:09:24.752-08:002019-01-14T12:09:24.752-08:00Brother Andre did not deal with this. He tried to...Brother Andre did not deal with this. He tried to get Mary Anger to drop her claims and did witness tampering. He wanted the priest and Fr. Grega was not nixed by the SBC but by higher authority. You still have a double standard. I believe that you are smart enough to understand this but don't want to understand it.<br /><br />Alisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-73288833226291733582019-01-14T07:57:12.026-08:002019-01-14T07:57:12.026-08:00You don't seem to be sensitive to sin. Instea...You don't seem to be sensitive to sin. Instead, you are making excuses for a creepy monk who protected his even creepier priest. That's just nasty. Who needs Donald Wuerl?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-86490970118841039032019-01-14T06:56:02.742-08:002019-01-14T06:56:02.742-08:00Her animus is clearly against the SBC. It’s eviden...Her animus is clearly against the SBC. It’s evidenced because she spends more time complaining about that than she does about her alleged victimization by Grega, who as far as I can tell, did nothing that can be punished by local authorities.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-75450728178149705292019-01-14T06:51:30.601-08:002019-01-14T06:51:30.601-08:00
I don’t care at this point. She’s either a respon...<br />I don’t care at this point. She’s either a responsible adult with moral agency or she’s a child. She can’t be both.<br /><br />No crime was committed.<br /><br />She reported him and Brother André eventually dealt with it. <br /><br />A woman scorned, I guess.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-21740005208711983242019-01-13T17:25:07.251-08:002019-01-13T17:25:07.251-08:00"You also have to wonder what's so import...<br /><br />"You also have to wonder what's so important about Quebec that she absolutely had to book a plane, or sit in a car for 16 hours for her and her children to see a priest who made a pass at her and even pose in pictures with him."<br /><br />What? Tancred's superpower to read minds has conked out?<br /><br />Actually, are mind-reading skills even necessary for this? Quebec is a vacation destination, as are many places in the world. My SIL takes her two kids, both still in elementary school, to places like Finland, Estonia, Monaco, and most recently Costa Rica. <br /><br /><br />"I also noted that clergy responding to her problem urged her to cut off all contacts with him. Wonder what that's about."<br /><br />Use your mind-reading skills, man. You've already read Anger's mind and declared her to be of bad will, to be more aggrieved by EENS than by the fact that her family priest made sexual passes at her, so why can't you figure it out?<br /><br />I myself actually don't care if Andre didn't believe her. What he thinks doesn't matter. What's offensive is that he tried to wreck an investigation into clerical sexual misconduct. After all the screaming and yelling the laity have done about the hierarchy protecting sexual predators among the clergy, Andre goes and protects his own predator. Pot meet kettle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-56564961398414560132019-01-13T16:49:01.733-08:002019-01-13T16:49:01.733-08:00And also I assure you that your mind reading canno...And also I assure you that your mind reading cannot really state that Mary Anger was more aggrieved about the teaching of the New Hampshire group. This priest had been a good friend to her. You don't just turn the switch on a friendship like that. And especially when she did not know about his past indiscretion. And you still can't defend your double standard for liberal Catholic priests who are caught in bad acts vs. traditional Catholic priests. We need to clean house and need transparency. Alisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-57450436472118525222019-01-13T16:39:48.718-08:002019-01-13T16:39:48.718-08:00Brother Andre did take her seriously and told her ...Brother Andre did take her seriously and told her that he appreciated the call and then his desperation sent him down another pass. And furthermore, he also had an affair with a woman while an active priest in FSSP. Again as John Senior used to say, I'd wait for better days. He did not need to harass her and what happened to her in the confessional is inexcusable. If he wants a priest who abuses that sacrament then he really is desperate. Now that the Bishop has declared them not in communion with Church, I suggest according to the dogma that they make it right. Again, I hope this does not ever happen to your family but I do not believe that you get the dynamics of sexual harassment. <br /> Alisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-76158426325237009062019-01-13T13:47:09.172-08:002019-01-13T13:47:09.172-08:00I can see why Brother Andre wouldn't take her ...I can see why Brother Andre wouldn't take her seriously, she has a chip on her shoulder about the thrice defined dogma that outside of the Catholic Church there is no salvation. Her bad will about that is much bigger than her feelings of betrayal that her family priest once made a pass at her.<br /><br />You also have to wonder what's so important about Quebec that she absolutely had to book a plane, or sit in a car for 16 hours for her and her children to see a priest who made a pass at her and even pose in pictures with him.<br /><br />I also noted that clergy responding to her problem urged her to cut off all contacts with him. Wonder what that's about.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-89841477283461707392019-01-12T22:26:41.958-08:002019-01-12T22:26:41.958-08:00I do know Mary Anger and I am really disappointed ...I do know Mary Anger and I am really disappointed that her claims are not taken seriously. She is a Catholic in good standing and truly seeks to live the Catholic Faith and has never vered from that goal. While I hope what happened to her never happens to you or anyone you know Tancred, you have failed to see the truth of what happened. She is completely honest and had no idea that the priest she knew and loved and had helped her family so much had an illicit affair prior to his making sexual advances on her. You have no idea how hard this can be to deal with when it is by someone you loved and thought would never do this. It also shows the complete lack that traditionalists have to want transparency when it comes to traditional priests and their misdeeds. The FSSP should have made it known when the priest left the parish why he was leaving. I appreciate from your blog that you do not want to see the Church become a white-washed tomb. Seriously, Brother Andre wanted this kept quiet. I can't know his motive but would guess it was because he was desperate for a traditional priest. He should have waited for better days instead of harassing my friend to do so. If we don't deal with the sexual crisis in all areas of the Church including traditional ones then we are truly impoverished people. We can not put the institutional Church or the institutions such as the SBC Center above the victims. I am tryly disappointed in your inconsistency. It's not the enemies of tradition that keep it from making great gains, it is actions like this that do. Alisonnoreply@blogger.com