tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post5393844588137242419..comments2024-03-29T00:16:25.097-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Cardinal Burke to ResistTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-43459328167461577562015-02-10T06:14:35.496-08:002015-02-10T06:14:35.496-08:00Wishful thinking, but that will never happen.
The ...Wishful thinking, but that will never happen.<br />The good thing is that I have read that traditional Catholicism (SSPX, etc) and even traditionalist sede-vacantist movements are experiencing rising interest and vocations as a reaction to Pope Francis. He is alienation the grass roots traditional,faithful Catholics and they are going elsewhere....mostly to the SSPX and affiliated groups.<br />Also I read that in many USA seminaries, the gains in enrollment made during the JP II years and especially Benedict XVI are evaporating under a negative picture of Pope Francis, and the type of Catholic Church he espouses with his agenda. LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81836927122920597672015-02-10T05:04:44.750-08:002015-02-10T05:04:44.750-08:00I will take him seriously the moment he is ordaine...I will take him seriously the moment he is ordained/concecrated in the pre-June 1968 rite by a traditional bishop and renounced Vatican 2.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-1204272684445188842015-02-10T04:04:48.446-08:002015-02-10T04:04:48.446-08:00There's another new hero in the Church today, ...There's another new hero in the Church today, standing beside the great Cardinal Burke. Archbishop Jan Pawel Legna, former Archbishop of Karaganda, Kazakhstan, just published an open letter whereby he placed serious doubt on the premise that Benedict XVI resigned of his own free will. This is obvious to many faithful Catholics. Also in the letter, he basically condemned the present Vatican administration he specifically named the Secretariat of State as a seedbed of modernism, spreading heresy and error, and political correctness), but by extension he also meant Francis.<br />Let us pray that more and more Bishops, and even Cardinals, begin to speak out against the Vatican and papacy of Francis.<br />Only by refuting him and his associates, only by exposing what they are spreading, can this evil be removed from the Papacy and the Vatican and the Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-55710018743109457302015-02-09T23:03:00.449-08:002015-02-09T23:03:00.449-08:00Of course there are true men of God in this Church...Of course there are true men of God in this Church! And women, as I was asked when Teaching CCD this Sunday past-- women like sweet, loving Susan Conner, who evidently tries to walk in the footsteps of not only Christ, but his Blessed Mother.<br /><br /> Flawed we be, but we know and admit it, by the grace of God. That grace allows us to point out what is flawed in ourselves and others, and to assess the severity the flaw justly, therefore, within reason, and to deal with the flaws in others charitably. We walk arm in arm with Christ and our personal flaws.Barnumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-28781154154971620352015-02-09T16:09:09.402-08:002015-02-09T16:09:09.402-08:00sorry pal...volpe, forte, mark, maradiega, kasper,...sorry pal...volpe, forte, mark, maradiega, kasper, bergoglio and their ilk are NOT 'people of God'...they are the enemies of God and His holy Catholic Church.<br /><br />C. Burke IS a person of God, and one of the very few MEN left in the rank of Bishop, who will speak the Truth, no matter what it costs him. May God bless, guide, guard and raise him.susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-33588679018412777542015-02-09T15:44:21.402-08:002015-02-09T15:44:21.402-08:00And just as surely, traditional Catholics would be...And just as surely, traditional Catholics would be the ones labeled <br />'Dissenters'. The persecution from inside of the Church would surely be as bad or worse than the outside. Be prepared. Pray.TLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185788425122984772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-36615822411107069832015-02-09T15:41:15.975-08:002015-02-09T15:41:15.975-08:00I think this is the 64 million dollar question her...I think this is the 64 million dollar question here. In what practical capacity do faithful Catholics 'resist'? What in the world does that look like? The only 'practical' thing I can think of is to hit them in the collection basket. Also support to the best of our ability 'traditional parishes'. If your parish supports and goes along with heresy, you MUST LEAVE IT! And find a true Catholic parish. May be easier said than done, but we gotta do what we gotta do. What we are talking about here is what Bishop Athanasius Schneider talked about......a SCHISM. And.......surely it would be very messy.TLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185788425122984772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-90190180396729131182015-02-09T13:09:23.516-08:002015-02-09T13:09:23.516-08:00I suspect Anon 3:58 is trying to say that perhaps ...I suspect Anon 3:58 is trying to say that perhaps Cardinal Burke is functioning in the capacity of a safety valve or even a controlled opposition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-58391345648043172042015-02-09T11:49:01.269-08:002015-02-09T11:49:01.269-08:00I just delete comments that aren't worthwhile....I just delete comments that aren't worthwhile. Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-18971671121847037592015-02-09T11:32:12.190-08:002015-02-09T11:32:12.190-08:00Yeah, I mean really, wasn't Ted Kennedy divorc...Yeah, I mean really, wasn't Ted Kennedy divorced and remarried? Didn't he have two wives at his funeral? Weren't three cardinals in attendance? Did the roof cave in? Most y'all think Ron Reagan (divorced and remarried protestant) is a saint so really who cares? Just keep writing these blogs and deleting any comments that disagree w/you (like the pope deletes the FFI). That's the ticket -- 'resist' on tv, videos and in blogs. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-43471955786515531982015-02-09T11:04:11.734-08:002015-02-09T11:04:11.734-08:00What are you talking about? Most of the comments h...What are you talking about? Most of the comments here are favorable to +++Burke.<br /><br />Take a hike.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-28435912869972991532015-02-09T10:53:33.389-08:002015-02-09T10:53:33.389-08:00Do you not all hear yourselves? These are all peo...Do you not all hear yourselves? These are all people of God - like it or not. Why do we have to resort to names and accusations? What happened to following the Gospel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-75957164900604206092015-02-09T07:34:28.499-08:002015-02-09T07:34:28.499-08:00Removing ourselves from communion with the idolate...Removing ourselves from communion with the idolaters: How would that work out on a practical basis? <br /><br /><br />Are we speaking about people in diocesan structures here? Catholics that avail themselves of the ministry of groups like the SSPX don't have to do anything; they are already in such a position. <br /><br /><br />What about people like Cardinal Burke and those who are similarly situated? It does not seem likely that such people will do anything more than make public statements disavowing the pope's action, should it actually occur. Does anyone think that Cardinal Burke or any of the other bishops will do the same thing as Archbishop Lefebvre? That does not seem plausible to me at all. <br /><br /><br />If the pope changes the discipline, I don't see how anyone could stop it, nor can I see how Cardinal Burke and those who agree would prevail to any great extent. The majority of the Church will go along with it, and people like Cardinal Burke will not remove themselves from communion with the pope. I just can't see that happening at all.<br /><br />Thoughts? <br /><br />DJRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-52637257233048644412015-02-09T07:29:42.035-08:002015-02-09T07:29:42.035-08:00LOL......I hope he'll never walk alone and som...LOL......I hope he'll never walk alone and some other cardinal braveheart will say his word in support, are there true men of God in this church barnum? Hope so and pray, Lent is near. God bless+Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-57695972972383617112015-02-09T05:36:38.642-08:002015-02-09T05:36:38.642-08:00What a mess. I hope the cardinals who voted for P...What a mess. I hope the cardinals who voted for Pope Bergoglio all get hemorrhoids and halitosis!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81814798982443444012015-02-09T02:25:21.385-08:002015-02-09T02:25:21.385-08:00I think there would have to be a concerted effort ...I think there would have to be a concerted effort to identify priests/bishops who were Catholic as opposed to schismatic and clearly identify them as such online. Catholics could then remove themselves from communion with and stop funding the idolaters.<br />Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-30396802851149573062015-02-08T22:01:52.804-08:002015-02-08T22:01:52.804-08:00Dear Alan,
I'd advise not use "come out ...Dear Alan,<br /><br />I'd advise not use "come out of the woodwork" for someone you do not think is a cockroach. That term implies something loathsome like vermin, rats, cockroaches. I do not think you think Cardinal Burke is such. Red featherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17840091078722867907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-60382375611494557912015-02-08T18:32:43.913-08:002015-02-08T18:32:43.913-08:00The great cardinal, lets call him that, he's b...The great cardinal, lets call him that, he's been honest to come out and say he will resist publicly, put that into perspective. Have others done this type of thing so boldly and publicly since Archbishop Lefebvre? I know there have always been resisters to Vat2 who said this or that on record but this seems different. This is quite a moment in the Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-50036197405165388132015-02-08T16:53:15.137-08:002015-02-08T16:53:15.137-08:00I wonder what the cardinal means by "resistin...I wonder what the cardinal means by "resisting." Assuming arguendo that the pope were to change the Church's uninterrupted discipline and publicly state that divorced and remarried people can now receive Holy Communion without a decree of nullity of a prior marriage. What actions would resistance consist of? What about we as the laity? Okay, so we say, "I disagree with you, Pope Francis, and I will not follow your teaching on this issue." Then we go to Mass the next Sunday and see the divorced and remarried couple receive Holy Communion from the parish priest. What happens next? DJRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-59315001388951186472015-02-08T16:26:47.958-08:002015-02-08T16:26:47.958-08:00The Rorate translation includes a bit more.
This ...The <a href="http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/02/full-translation-of-cardinal-burkes.html?m=1" rel="nofollow"><i>Rorate</i> translation</a> includes a bit more.<br /><br />This part:<br /><i>I have heard here and there some jokes among the cardinals: "how many infirmities do you have?"</i><br />reminds me of today's epistle (2 Cor. 12:9):<br /><i>He said to me, "My grace suffices thee, for power is perfected in infirmity." Gladly therefore will I glory in my infirmity, that the power of Christ may dwell in me.</i>Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-2923900787798221182015-02-08T16:13:18.897-08:002015-02-08T16:13:18.897-08:00Yes, those who think like Card. Burke will come ou...Yes, those who think like Card. Burke will come out of the woodwork. Recently, Abp. Luigi Negri of Ferrara-Comacchio (Italy) "<a href="https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archbishop-negri-echoes-of-fascism-in-proposed-italian-laws-against-homopho" rel="nofollow">has likened the proposed Italian laws against 'homophobia' to a reemergence of fascism and the 'dark times of state ideology' in Italy</a>." He has also <a href="http://www.foramerica.org/2015/02/archbishop-blames-abortion-italys-economic-crisis/" rel="nofollow">blamed abortion for Italy's declining population</a>.Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81113767346743022632015-02-08T16:01:19.104-08:002015-02-08T16:01:19.104-08:00Boy, are you full of crap. Except for the crap you...Boy, are you full of crap. Except for the crap you just posted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-75049677414298201752015-02-08T15:58:15.066-08:002015-02-08T15:58:15.066-08:00Resist the same way he does communion for pro-abor...Resist the same way he does communion for pro-aborts? He gives quotes for Voris, but what pro-aborts come to his masses? I.e. HE will refuse communion to adulterers should any ever come up to him. What a brouhaha in a tea cup. He will be THE example for you, Voris, Rorate, CFN, Remnant etc. to follow -- how to resist w/o giving up one iota - luv it! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-26522611205587750982015-02-08T15:56:38.891-08:002015-02-08T15:56:38.891-08:00Well...he has been a part of the Modernist establi...Well...he has been a part of the Modernist establishment from day one but has never given over to them entirely. I hope and pray that he realizes the problem today is more than just a nutjob at the helm. Francis is merelt the fruit, not the root. His Excellency Cardinal Burke will now have a chance to be an exemplary Prince of The Church. I hope his resistance is as firm and loud as few other faithful bishops and a certain archbishop have been. I hope he has the prayers and sacrifices of all true Catholics. He will need them if he is to truly "resist".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-7881377069405612482015-02-08T13:53:41.502-08:002015-02-08T13:53:41.502-08:00Cardinal Burke is a wonderful man, a true example ...Cardinal Burke is a wonderful man, a true example of a Prince of the Church, and a true Catholic. He is a hero to many. But he will not be alone in the fight, especially in October. Pope Francis will have the most unpleasant shock in his life during the Synod. He has made enemies of so many faithful Catholic Cardinals and Bishops, and nearly all of the Roman Curia!<br />Cardinal Burke is correct to quote that the forces of evil will not prevail in the Church. Those forces are lead by Francis.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com