tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post4934147019660028647..comments2024-03-28T15:32:38.398-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Pope Francis Endorses Homosexual Civil UnionsTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-20061138478660328722020-10-27T19:39:30.858-07:002020-10-27T19:39:30.858-07:00Pope Francis(I hesitate to use this title) his sou...Pope Francis(I hesitate to use this title) his soul is in great jeporady along with all the gay unions he approves of. He needs to shape up or ship out! DEC. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10729744396547693860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-37224173949544208272020-10-25T14:50:45.346-07:002020-10-25T14:50:45.346-07:00I’ve seen surprisingly little written about this i...I’ve seen surprisingly little written about this in the secular press. I guess the Church has become more irrelevant than I had suspected Sue-Annnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-30484200264419596642020-10-24T17:18:52.717-07:002020-10-24T17:18:52.717-07:00Anon 1:12pm. Great comment. Every. Single. Time.Anon 1:12pm. Great comment. Every. Single. Time.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-27194269549671381782020-10-24T16:11:27.039-07:002020-10-24T16:11:27.039-07:00"Sodomy can never be accepted by the Church.&..."Sodomy can never be accepted by the Church." True but it seems to be the sport favored by quite a few in the Roman Curia, including some old tarts in red.PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-36912025478490094552020-10-24T13:12:04.396-07:002020-10-24T13:12:04.396-07:00Not that this is news, but it was a jew who made t...Not that this is news, but it was a jew who made this film about Bergoglio.<br />If there is trouble you can be sure that a jew is involved.<br />Of course, Bergoglio must know this and is on board with all of this civil union crap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-87200730792380747862020-10-24T10:19:17.557-07:002020-10-24T10:19:17.557-07:00David Martin....bergoglio (there is NO "franc...David Martin....bergoglio (there is NO "francis') IS PART of the gay lobby.<br /><br />and 'Patrick Keenan', you feckless, impious wank.....COUNTLESS numbers of people have now been condemned to hell because bergoglio has given them permission and approval to sodomize one another with a "papal" imprimatur. <br /><br />That's the point you disingenuous wank. susannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-30369209227337152982020-10-24T09:46:19.263-07:002020-10-24T09:46:19.263-07:00If Cordeleone approves of civil unions for gays, h...If Cordeleone approves of civil unions for gays, he should be thrown out too. Typical neocon Catholic.<br /><br />JBQ, Tancred, and I am sure many others realize that "civil unions" is just a deceptive way to describe "gay marriage". In former times, "civil union" simply meant a man and woman who got married before a Justice of the Peace, or a Judge in a court....without any religious ceremony. They were still considered married by the state. That is what Civil Union means, and this Pope Francis knows exactly that. He is as slick as a serpent. He knows that means marriage in the secular sense....and he approves of it.It's his way of blessing ga marriage. The religious sacramental marriage in many cases (countries) is just a formality. It is the civil ceremony that governments recognize,that piece of paper which documents the union according to law.... not the religious ceremony.<br /><br />Anyway, I hope the movement against this grows into a tidal wave which cleans house of Francis and his people. This morning I read an article which stated that except for his core of dissident heretic supporters around him in Casa Santa Martha, 99% of the Vatican is against Francis on this issue....massive opposition there, and growing in Europe.<br /><br />Damian MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-82317144768582678352020-10-24T08:45:41.142-07:002020-10-24T08:45:41.142-07:00Sodomy can never be accepted by the Church.Sodomy can never be accepted by the Church.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13444205341223401272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-7724501093704128672020-10-24T04:36:30.571-07:002020-10-24T04:36:30.571-07:00My non-Catholic neighbor (a typical less-than-main...My non-Catholic neighbor (a typical less-than-mainstream type) likes to jab at me because of my Faith. Yesterday he said, Boy, that pope of yours just doesn’t quit, does he? Now he is blessing homosexual unions. I said, poor Francis is filled with erroneous opinions. Church Teaching remains firm and can not change. Francis has so many false ideas. Maybe he should just leave The Church and join yours. He laughed and said, you know...that is the sad truth. He’d fit right in.<br /><br />I can find a teaching moment in almost every situation. Especially with Francis. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-48679571118972493152020-10-23T19:43:03.190-07:002020-10-23T19:43:03.190-07:00There are a large number of cases where adults sex...There are a large number of cases where adults sexually abuse children, but that doesn't mean it needs to be decriminalized.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-59986094027008213122020-10-23T19:17:05.988-07:002020-10-23T19:17:05.988-07:00Same sex unions are recognised as civil marriages ...Same sex unions are recognised as civil marriages in many countries included many states in the US. A large number of the same sex people in these unions/marriages are Catholics. The Pope does not accept the possibility of these being elevated to sacramental status in the Catholic Church. The opponents of Francis are attempting to lay this on him. They are wrong and, I think, operating out of unworthy motives.<br />Francis is simply saying that the Church has a duty to face reality and to come to terms with that reality in a Christ like way. He is, in my view, simply reaffirming traditional Catholic teaching namely, that all God's children, should receive the pastoral care of the Church as Christ intends.Patrick Keenannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-61938635477157441312020-10-23T18:11:22.042-07:002020-10-23T18:11:22.042-07:00Patrick Keenan, there used to be a sodomite histor...Patrick Keenan, there used to be a sodomite historian named Boswell who wrote a book called, "Same Sex Unions in Premodern Europe". The book was not well-received by serious historians.<br /><br />Surely you don't think that degenerate same-sex unions should be legitimized by ecclesiastical and civil practice or that it's been normal for centuries?<br />Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-61299088224040881272020-10-23T17:54:20.353-07:002020-10-23T17:54:20.353-07:00@John F. Kennedy: You need to get rid of your set ...@John F. Kennedy: You need to get rid of your set of bunk beds. Sleeping on the bottom rack and bumping your head every morning has dimmed your ability to think.-----@Patrick Keenan: Civil union is a euphemism for gay marriage. The door has been propped open just a little more for the pontiff's true liberal agenda to sally forth. If you think this is where he stops and then preaches adoration of the Almighty, think again. There are many more ideas waiting to crawl out from under his rock.JBQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09344181644293746758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-86401422285498928822020-10-23T16:55:42.510-07:002020-10-23T16:55:42.510-07:00Pope Francis is not talking about sacramental marr...Pope Francis is not talking about sacramental marriage for homosexuals, which he disagrees with, but favors civil unions, an arrangement that does not compromise the Church's understanding of the sacrament of marriage. The Church in Europe has lived with civil unions for centuries and now many countries thorough Europe, the Americas, Australia, New Zealand etc have voted for civil unions that include gays and lesbians. There's nothing new here. Patrick Keenannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-1119396376359507602020-10-23T16:23:10.066-07:002020-10-23T16:23:10.066-07:00Damian,
Sorry, Cordileone IS in favor of Civil Un...Damian,<br /><br />Sorry, Cordileone IS in favor of Civil Unions.<br /><br />https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2020/10/22/s-f-archbishop-cordileone-pushes-more-inclusive-civil-unions/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29<br /><br />"“I would add that a civil union of this type (one which is not equated to marriage) should be as inclusive as possible, and not be restricted to two people of the same sex in a presumed sexual relationship,” he said. “There is no reason, for example, why a brother and a sister, both of whom are unmarried and support each other, should not have access to these kinds of benefits.”<br /><br />For the sake of mutual benefits, the matter of sexual activity is completely irrelevant, he suggested, and therefore people’s gender or sexual orientation should not factor into such unions.<br /><br />“Marriage is unique because it is the only institution that connects children to their mothers and fathers, and therefore is presumed to be a sexual relationship,” Cordileone continued. “Indeed, the sexual relationship that marriage is presumed to involve is the only kind by which children are naturally made.”<br /><br />“The nature of marriage, the place of sex within a virtuous life, these great teachings of the Church come to us from God, are illuminated by reason, and do not change,” he concluded."<br /><br /><br />Based on HIS description, he would be open to incest. "and therefore people’s gender or sexual orientation should not factor into such unions." But he isn't disallowing it either.<br />John F. Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16497490500148126673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-16772576039444848922020-10-23T14:06:17.844-07:002020-10-23T14:06:17.844-07:00That's right, the whole gay-lobby should resig...That's right, the whole gay-lobby should resign or Francis should repent and throw them out, which is what he should have done long ago. David Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09040269623286897803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-12468011211749660852020-10-23T13:37:18.108-07:002020-10-23T13:37:18.108-07:00Absolutely unbelievable the tidal wave of oppositi...Absolutely unbelievable the tidal wave of opposition Francis has created by his approval for same sex civil unions. IN just one day,CArdinals Burke,Mueller,O'Malley, Archbishops Schneider, Vigano, Cordileone (San Francisco), Strickland, and the entire BIshops Conferrence of Kerala State(India), have come out to condemn Francis. Archbishop Schneider begs this heretic Pope t retract this approval for he sake of his own immortal soul. Couldn't be more to the point.<br />This is only going to grow......and Francis should be brought down and forced to resign, along wih all his appointments and supporters (Mariadiaga, etc).<br /><br />Damian M. MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com